thanks once again for your encouragement and your time.
I realise that compared to a lot of the replies I have read on LU my answers are a bit terse, containing very little other than an attempt to answer your questions.
The reason for that is because however brief and badly written, they take a long time to do.
Without a spell checker and grammar suggestions on my chromebook it would be impossible for me
To do them at all.
Looking at your reply this morning I felt irritation, disappointment, frustration all sorts of things, not even sure who I was irritated with, mainly me I think,and frustrated with not seeing clearly what is.
Then I thought maybe it was the wording I was using ….(I and me) that was what you mainly referred to.
So a lot going on including a sense of failure and hopelessness creeping in, then I had to realise once again I may be a dyslexic but I am not stupid having got all that out of the way I went back to trying to answer your question/pointers without the baggage.
Then I remember reading you saying somewhere “it is very simple the thinking is what makes it difficult” So onward and upwards.
when I stop myself from going into thought” – so there is a me, a person going into thoughts?
What is it exactly that can stop itself going into thoughts? The me-character, Peter?
And how do you that? What do you do exactly for ‘stopping yourself from going into thoughts”?
Distraction appeared to be practised but no-one can be found who practised it or who goes into thoughts they are either there or not.
No it is not so.… I managed not to think..” – OK. So there is a you, who has some sort of power over thoughts, since sometimes it can manage not to think. Is this so?
There is no I that can manage not to think we have proved that.Where is the I that can manage not to think?
Can you stop thinking?
How do you make that happen? What do you do in order to stop thoughts appearing?
No, I can't stop thinking.
Nothing, unless it was to hit myself over the head hard enough :)
I already knew the answer but in the spirit of honesty I had another go Total FailureSit for about 5 minutes, and your only job is to NOT think a single thought for 5 minutes. Literally ZERO thoughts. Stop thinking altogether. Can you do that?
I already knew the answer but in the spirit of honesty I had another go Total Failure
After you’ve done it and failed, is there really a me who could manage stop thinking?
Or ‘I managed not to think” is part of the selfing thoughts of a person, Peter?
There is no me who can stop thinking it just happens.
Your answer is the truth, it is selfing thoughts, that is indeed all there is to be found of Peter.
The lessening of thoughts happens automatically.Is the lessening of thoughts the result of Peter somehow managing not to think, or the lessening of thoughts are just happening automatically
We have established Peter has no power over thoughts, he is an illusion so has no powerIs the main character, Peter, has any power over thoughts?
Or thoughts just happen effortlessly, including thoughts about “I managed not to think”?
of any nature. Thoughts are effortlessly appearing. When Peter is looked for he never appears.
No Peter can be found outside the selfing thought story of me/Peter.... thats what he is a story. That is what is beginning to be seen he is no more real than Batman.snce sending off my findings I have found myself laughing, can it be as simple as the me/self is just a thought ???
There cannot be a self/me....... based on the work of the last few days, where would it be, there is nowhere left to hide.
Having re-read this, I now feel unsure of the truth of what I am saying, but will trust in the process you are kindly guiding me through to clarify the situation.
I nearly deleted this, as it seems to be thinking not looking, but it may have a significance to you, or not as the case may be.
OK. So you’ve come to the intellectual conclusion that maybe the me/self is just a thought.
Now test this assumption against reality, to see if this is really the case.
Is there a real, actual me/self/Peter outside of the selfing thought story of me/Peter?
Thank you once again Vivian
I am a verbal communicator but I am learning to type better,how to cut and paste from document on to LUs website
all things I dont do much of so a learning curve in lots of ways.