Great. So when you LOOK and see there are none of these things…what is actually found? What is there?
‘Just experience’ is such an understatement! :) What is there is Reality itself no matter how it may be labelled ie THIS/Awareness/God/Spirit/Knowingknown/Presence/Source etc. It is the ‘substance’ of all ‘things’, including the idea of a separate self. It is quite miraculous and amazing when it is seen how the simplicity of what is termed as ‘actual experience’ unfolds into a play, no different to the plays acted out on stage or plays that are called movies.
And when you drop all the labels of AE…what is left…what remains? What is reality?
Yes…the transparent, colourless, borderless, boundaryless, edgeless, limitless no thing that is appearing as every thing and yet becomes none of those things. So this is Reality....and every thing is appearing in/as Reality. So Reality can you find an actual separate any thing?
Does AE have any stories of their own…or are all stories about AE thought imposed stories?
Only thoughts can tell stories. No meaning in AE.
Yes. The pictures/ideas that thought is ‘painting’ about all appearances, is the content of thought, and is fantasy.
1) Imagine holding sensation in the right hand and thought in the left hand.
Does thought, on the one hand, and sensation, on the other, know about each other? Is there a link between the two?
No - I can see how the thought itself doesn't know anything about anything, it's inert.
But - thought DOES talk about actual AE of sensation ("My chest hurts! I'm having a heart attack!"), so where does that knowledge come from? This sounds like there is a link between the two. I don't see a link in AE.
Knowledge, which is thought based is part of the dream called life. In the story of the dream there is a baby born who learns all about what he is and what life is through a process called growing up! This is all learned knowledge, and it seems that all this knowledge is needed to navigate life...however, we are not using thought based knowledge to learn to see what is actual and what is fantasy. What is actual is known...not via thought based knowledge...but is known because You are self aware and there is no experience and experiencer. Do you need thought to tell you when colour, sound, thought, smell, taste, sensation arise? Or are they simply known?
If you take a careful LOOK. Is there colour AND smell AND taste AND sensation AND thought AND sound. What is it that adds the 'AND'? All there is, is coloursmelltastesensationthoughtsound = experience appearing exactly as it IS.
So what is it that says “this sounds like there is a link between the two”? Without thought, how is this known exactly?
2) Imagine sensation and thought are resting on either side of a pair of scales. When sensation is looked at it gets heavier. When thought is looked at it gets heavier.
Is it possible to look at both thought and sensation at the same time to balance the scales?
No, one or the other gets attention at one time. If it happens very quickly it looks simultaneous.
Yes, exactly! Let’s look at this further!
This exercise will help with seeing how thought points to there being a correlation between sensation and sight. This exercise also helps to see how the illusion of the body is ‘created’, so to speak. Normally we believe that sensation is coming from sight (ie colour) - the object seen. In this example, the object being the ‘hand’ (colour labelled as ‘hand’)
1. Close the eyes and hold up one hand. Pay attention only to the felt sensation ‘of the hand’.
2. Open the eyes, and now observe the hand by looking only.
3. While looking at the hand, pay attention to the felt sensations.
Repeat 1 to 3 as many times as needed and investigate…
Can you see that both the ‘visual sight’ (colour) and the sensation appear simultaneously but ‘separately’, meaning that none of them is coming from the other or contained by the other?
Do they just appear equally, ‘beside’ each other without any hierarchy or link between them?
Is there any link between the sensation and the sight ie colour? In other words is the sensation actually ‘coming from’ the sight (colour labelled as ‘hand’), or only thought and mental constructs link them?
And how is it known that there are sensations happening in TWO different locations?
What do you find when you investigated fear thoroughly?
There are two different sensations, one in the chest and one in the spine (location is thought). They're like clouds in a sky, no actual story around them or identifying names. Nothing about it is unpleasant, just thought says it is unpleasant.
Maybe redoing the head exercise might help?
Please IGNORE all thoughts and images of ‘head’ and ‘fingers’ and just answer from actual experience. Close your eyes and take in a couple of deep breaths to settle the dust and keeping your eyes closed...
Press a finger down onto the top of the ‘head’.
Notice what is actually present.
Is it a head, or is it just a sensation (labelled ‘pressure’) and thoughts ABOUT a head?
Do the same with a finger on each side of the head.
Is a head actually found, or are there just sensations again?
And is there anything between the pressure points, or are there just thoughts about something being in between them
How is it known that the sensation is “intense”? Is 'intense' like 'tingling' actually known, or are they simply labels that overlay AE and makes a story of AE?
If you don’t think about it, do you know that this sensation is something called ‘fear’?
Is there any inherent fear in the sensation itself?
Just in thought. It's just intense.
And without thought saying “at a higher pitch” are they not simply the AE of sensation? What is it that gives them their story of difference?
Now compare the sensation of the soles of the feet – which is just neutral sensation – and the sensation in your chest (labelled ‘fear’)…what is the difference between them?
A little bit more intense, but apart from that – any difference?
Just difference in location (which is thought), a sense of growth/morphing (vs the steady feeling in the feet), and intensity (strong vs faint).
I can see how it looks like basically the same substance ("sensation") at a higher pitch.
Is the actual experience of thought different just because the content of the thought is different?
Can you find a 'you' that is separate to experience to know that there is a difference?