The sensation labeled 'eyes' is not sensed as seeing, the seeing and the eye sensation aren't related.How is it known that the eyes see?
Focus on the sensation labelled ‘eyes’. Is this sensation doing the seeing?
What is actually known right now about eyes, except thought about them?
Nothing is known about the eyes, and they aren't ever directly seen while seeing. Closing the eyelids and not seeing are only related by a thought and not experienced. Seeing occurs in dreams, and clearly not through the eyes of a me-avatar, but that's beyond the scope of direct experience.
No, nothing is found, nothing is seeing, there is just seeing.Can you find anything behind the eyes that is seeing?
Is there anything that is seeing?
This is true for all other senses too, there are no ears or an eardrum when hearing, no mouth/tongue when tasting and no nose for smelling.
There is no brain involved in thinking either, but why don't I just keep this all to myself so that men in white coats don't come and take me away.
We discussed the body quite a bit, but there is still confusion about the role that the body plays beyond the self illusion, and what is experienced after the body dies, if anything. Seeing, hearing, tasting etc are not facilitated by the body, yet is the body required for experience to exist? There is something a body has that a rock does not. If so, that would imply that experience or existance is also an illusion. Not trying to get philosophical here, trying to clearly see what the body is and how it is related to experience. If this cannot be known, that's just fine.
Vivien, I'm not sure what the allowed scope of LU, I know your time is limited and there are people waiting for a guide, if possible I'd most definitely appreciate if you'd continue and guide me beyond the no-self realization.
Thank you so much