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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:06 am

Hi, Stafford
It "appears" that I dont control my thoughts.
Be well...Abner

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Re: Awakent

Postby StaffordJR » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:21 pm

Hi, Stafford
It "appears" that I dont control my thoughts.
Be well...Abner
Hi Abner, Apologies for the Late Reply, The Day Through me around Yesterday Hard Day Sorry !!! I just want too say I'm Enjoying Guiding You & You are Doing Great !!!
Yes Thoughts are Random at Best !!! Ok so We have gone over & Looked at How We don't control Thoughts & Words can't explain what The Truth IS or Who We Are !!! How is this Feeling for You my Dear Abner & What would You say You Are ??? Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:33 am

Hi, Stafford
I want to be honest with you. I dont feel
like I am doing well. Im not sure about thoughts
and I know that words are not the thing, but I
dont know how it applies here. You always say that you are sorry, that you dont have the time to get
back sooner. We dont appear to have a constant rapour, and we dont communicate in real time.
After 24 hrs or more you only ask me one wuestion. Although I really appreciate and am
truely thankful for your time and effort, I
question if this is working at all.
You truely good friend...Abner

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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:53 am

Hi, again, Stafford
It is obvious ,to me, that you are a very very kind

sensitive and very special person. The last thing I wish to do
is to hurt you. I only wish to share my true feelings with you. This, working toward awakining, is of the very most importance to me. I have been trying, unsucessfully, for many many many years and sometimes blame myself for my failure.
I hope you understand
Your very apprecateive frend...Abner

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Re: Awakent

Postby StaffordJR » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:29 am


Hi, Stafford
I want to be honest with you. I dont feel
like I am doing well. Im not sure about thoughts
and I know that words are not the thing, but I
dont know how it applies here. You always say that you are sorry, that you dont have the time to get
back sooner. We dont appear to have a constant rapour, and we dont communicate in real time.
After 24 hrs or more you only ask me one wuestion. Although I really appreciate and am
truely thankful for your time and effort, I
question Though working at all.
You truely good friend...Abner

Hi, again, Stafford
It is obvious ,to me, that you are a very very kind

sensitive and very special person. The last thing I wish to do
is to hurt you. I only wish to share my true feelings with you. This, working toward awakining, is of the very most importance to me. I have been trying, unsucessfully, for many many many years and sometimes blame myself for my failure.
I hope you understand
Your very apprecateive frend...Abner
Hi my Dear Abner my Friend & Thank You for Your Honesty & Please, You haven't failed at Any of This !!! I Understand How Important This IS Too You Because it's The same for me, I Really nearly Lost my Life my first awakening Because I didn't have Help, So I won't abandon You & if I can't Guide You I Would find Someone else here Who can So no worries !!!
Ok So This IS So so Simple that Our Complex mind can't Except This, We're a Happening, an Image Created In & Out of Each Moment Wow gets me & i Still Don't Get IT, Its Totally Seen Though !¿!
I ask one question at a time only so I don't get into Teacher mode Lol Its Easy for me Too tell & Teach This, However This can't Be Taught it has Too Be Seen !?! And as for our Rapour I'll Definitely try & Post more often, its just, no Excuses, however Life has Been moving me in All Kinds of Directions & can only get too what's in front of me !?! Life Truly Truly moves & Creates Us & Looking forward towards You Seeing This As Well Abner !!!
Ok knowing Words can't Explain This & Words are Thoughts so that makes Thoughts a little useless & The Sense Work on their own Right, What would You Say You're Actually Doing, Remember You don't have too do anything Too Be ?!? Without Thinking about it Just Looking, What would You say is left for You Too Do ??? Ok hopefully I don't get too Carried away & made this unclear just let me know !!! Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:51 am

Hi, Stafford
I dont "see" that there is anything for me to do.
My senses work automatically, like breathing.
As for my mind it is also on auto pilot.Although I am not happy with all my thoughts. All is working without me.
Thank you for being so understanding.
Be well, your friend...Abner

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Re: Awakent

Postby StaffordJR » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:02 am

Ok I Read my last Post & too Simplify This Take a Look around You & inside You, is this or isn't this Happening without Your control & Thinking is useful but Useless in answering This if that makes better sense !?! Ok Lots of Love Take care Yours Truly Stafford

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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:28 am

Hi,Stafford
I thought that I understood your post, and yes it is all happening without me. My question is: isnt my response comming from thinking or is that just an automatic ( free ) response.
Be well... Abner
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Re: Awakent

Postby StaffordJR » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:54 pm


Hi,Stafford
I thought that I understood your post, and yes it is all happening without me. My question is: isnt my response comming from thinking or is that just an automatic ( free ) response.
Be well... Abner
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Hi Abner & Yes its authentic & Free !!! Try this Go All Day & Claim Everything You're doing All Day Long & See How it's Going !?! So When You have a Burp or blink of the Eye You say to Yourself I'm doing this !?! When You're Thinking Try & Not think & See Exactly What's going on & When You're Doing anything !?! Ok hopefully this makes sense ? Take care Sending Peace Love Life & Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Awakent

Postby StaffordJR » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:55 pm

Oops Typo Its Automatic Lol Apologies

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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:23 am

Hi, Stafford
When you posted, I was sleeping...That is ok
I get to see your posts first thing in the morning.
My time is +7GMT. I live in Thailand. It is very obvious that burping and blinking happen automatically...without a "me". As for thinking
I believe that in meditation I can clear my mind
and stop thinking. I know this is not your way of
"thinking".
By the way it is 6AM here.
Be well...Abner.

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Re: Awakent

Postby StaffordJR » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:03 am


Hi, Stafford
When you posted, I was sleeping...That is ok
I get to see your posts first thing in the morning.
My time is +7GMT. I live in Thailand. It is very obvious that burping and blinking happen automatically...without a "me". As for thinking
I believe that in meditation I can clear my mind
and stop thinking. I know this is not your way of
"thinking".
By the way it is 6AM here.
Be well...Abner.
Hi My Dear Abner,
I So Appreciate Your Understanding in When I'm able Too Post & Glad it meets You in the Morning &
Good Morning Too You my Friend !!!
Ok So When Meditation Happens & Breath & Thought Slow & or Drop, When are We Doing the Slowing & Dropping of Thought & Breath & Please describe in detail ?!?
Begin is Created in Each & Every Moment. Who can Claim a Moment's Thought if Every Moment IS New & Who's way of Thinking could it Be ?!? One More, When the Emperor asked The Buddha Who sat in front of Him, Buddha Replied I Don't Know ??? !!!
I hope this isn't Too Harsh it's just We're not Talking about something that can Be Debatable. It's an Undescribable Mysterious Happing That's up in our faces can Be Seen without any Concepts, Totally Stupid Simple Lol
Ok so I Just want Too Send my Love & I Really Know How Important this IS for You & hope this made sense too You & We have as Long as it Takes No Worries Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:23 am

Hi Stafford
Sometimes I can not understand your english.
This is one of those times.
See where you wrote the word "begin".
I think you used the wrong word. I will go back and try to figure out what you meant. As for the rest I am having difficulty in understanding
most of it.
Your English is very hard for me.
As I said I will go back and reread and try and figure out what you are saying
Your friend...Abner
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Re: Awakent

Postby Abner » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:57 am

Hi,Stafford
1-As I meditate, I am watching my breath going in and out. After a short time all I am aware of is my breathing. I have no other thoughts. If thoughts come back, I just focus again on my breathing and thoughts vanish.
2-I feel its my way of thinking
3-I dont understand your pointer regarding the Buddah.
Forgive me, but most of your sentences dont make sense.
I dont mean to be cruel but ,many times I cant figure out what you are saying.
I know your heart is in the right place so it makes me feel sad.
Your good friend Abner.

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Re: Awakent

Postby StaffordJR » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:41 pm


Hi,Stafford
1-As I meditate, I am watching my breath going in and out. After a short time all I am aware of is my breathing. I have no other thoughts. If thoughts come back, I just focus again on my breathing and thoughts vanish.
2-I feel its my way of thinking
3-I dont understand your pointer regarding the Buddah.
Forgive me, but most of your sentences dont make sense.
I dont mean to be cruel but ,many times I cant figure out what you are saying.
I know your heart is in the right place so it makes me feel sad.
Your good friend Abner.
Dear Abner my Friend
Please don't feel bad it Would Be my Pleasure to ask Someone Else Too Be Your Guide. It's No Problem at All !!! My feelings won't Be Hurt. I've Been told before my writing is hard too understand & I've tried to change it & but that hasn't been easy for me, hard too explain !!! So just let me know & I'll ask for another Guide for You !!! I know You'll get Through This & Someone Will Be More than Happy Too Guide You Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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