Lovely looking Eliel! :)
Yes, so thoughts just arise and subside and “I” is not a place where thoughts appear. “I” is a thought. It arises and subsides by itself.I don't create the thoughts. They happen on their own. They come as images, sounds. You said there's no point in calling them internal so I don't know how to describe them.
How are sounds a thought? When the sound “woofwoof” appears, how is that a thought? What the sound is labelled as is a thought, but the sound itself, how is that a thought?
I await your findings :)I haven't explored this yet. I'll come back to it in a following post.It only seems that thoughts change if you think that each thought is different from another. How is this known exactly? Without thought, how is it known that each thought is different from another?
Yes exactly! There is always knowing. How can there not be? So you are knowing of every thought, there are no hidden thought. You are knowing of every sound as it arises and colour, smell, taste and sensation. You are always knowing of the known. The known being sound, colour, thought, smell, sensation, taste. So there is simply knowingknown, they are one and the same thing.Yes. It is thoughts that say 'I forget'. There is though AE's concomitant to what thought describes as 'getting lost in thought' or 'being distracted'. Something curious was noticed today. I was watching thoughts when it struck me that really I'm always watching, that there is always knowing. Is this what you mean?It may seem that ‘you’ “forget”, however are you not aware of each and every thought that appears, no matter what the thought is or is about?
Okay, I look forward to your findings.I'll look into it more before writing down an answer.You don’t THINK so, or when you were observing thoughts while doing this exercise, you actually could see that there is no preventing a thought? I don’t want you thinking answers, I want you to answer from what you found when doing the exercise.
Lovely Eliel! Yes. It is only a thought that suggests everything. There is just this moment with whatever is appearing...the rest is thought.The length of a thought is more thought, the middle of a thought is more thought. The length of a string is thought.How long is a thought? Where exactly is the middle of a thought? How long is a piece of string?
Yes! Nice looking.Thoughts happen a lot. Every few seconds a new one comes up. They being related or unrelated is thought. Also thought happening a lot is thought. Every few seconds a new one comes up is thought.Look for this then. You should be observing thoughts throughout your day, every day. So look and see while observing thoughts to when they just randomly jump from a subject to something completely unrelated.
Let me know how you go and what you notice.
Wonderful! :)The thought can't feel sensations. When looking for a self, none is found.Does the thought “I am feeling guilty because I am not yet seeing the truth” know anything about guilt. Can a thought feel? Can an actual guilty self be found in that thought?
Yes, ‘sensation’, ‘colour’, ‘thought’, ‘taste’, ‘smell’, ‘sound’ are all labels/thoughts. So what is appearing is experience/THIS exactly as it appears. It is only thought that veils THIS with stories about it!Yes, you are right. Also 'sensation', 'colour' and so on are thoughts.The label ‘guilt’ is AE of thought and not AE of guilt
The sensation labelled ‘guilt’ is AE of sensation and not AE of guilt
The image labelled ‘me/I/body’ is AE of colour and not AE of a guilty person.
The thought ABOUT guilt (which are the contents of the thought) are AE of thought and not AE of guilt.
Can you see this?
Yes. So every time ‘guilt’ seemingly appears, have a look to see if thought, sensation, colour etc know anything about guilt and look to see if you can find anyone that is guilty. The more you look the further you cement the seeing that there is no one feeling, saying, doing or thinking anything!No, guilt is never known. 'Guilt' is the content of a thought.So, what is actually appearing (AE) is label + sensation + colour + thoughts ABOUT guilt. So label, sensation, colour and thoughts are known, however is “guilt” actually known? Can an actual someone/anyone be found that is guilty?