Feet first (or should it be head first?)

[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

My head keeps going back to what Elad said about sincerity.
Can't get a grip on why it's bugging me.
As soon as I do, I'll let you know.


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[vinceschubert]

Hi James,

My head keeps going back to what Elad said about sincerity.
Can't get a grip on why it's bugging me.
As soon as I do, I'll let you know.

don't try and work it out with thought.
See if you can get in touch with a feeling that seems to be sincerely, then look for connections from/to it.

v

[jrm72]

Afternoon Vince,

don't try and work it out with thought.

Yeah 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

(does my complete lack of ability to get out of my head come through)


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[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

It's the jump from being in the head to allowing the knowing, that isn't happening at the moment.
For when I think about it, the knowing becomes an idea and thus a thought, bugger.


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[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

No words coming (except these ones), hoping that's a beneficial thing.

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[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

I'm going to describe something in two ways -

1, (the old way) I get these uneasy feelings that make me feel uncomfortable, they are a bit of a bummer.

2, (the new way) I get these sensations and notice stories wanting to attach to them, can't always see through the stories, but when I do, the sensations cause far less problems.


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[vinceschubert]

Good evening James,

1, (the old way)

you will need ths way to communicate with most people.

2, (the new way) I get these sensations and notice stories wanting to attach to them, can't always see through the stories, but when I do, the sensations cause far less problems.

Ok, this is a big one..
Individual storied don't need to be "seen through". That is they don't need to be dismantled.
Every one of them is ABOUT something. Not one of them IS the experience that they are about.
Now you mustn't use this to dismiss or deny the stories or the response to them.
Where the 'value' is in the stories is that they tell you something about identifying.
Not the story itself, but what prompted it.
You can safely presume that the purpose of the story is to lead you away from unpleasant feelings.
Sometimes we can get a glimpse of what those feelings are about, but mostly they are well hidden.
You don't need to know the details of them as you can always presume that they came from BEFORE.
Further you can presume that that before was when you didn't have the capacity to handle whatever caused them.
Now you do.
So, every time your mind starts going gangbusters, the question can arise, "what feeling am I avoiding?"
...but. BUT, it's not a question to think about. It is meant to lead you into what you are feeling...
And just sitting with it without opinion.

much love

vince

[jrm72]

Afternoon Vince,

Yes, stories all the way down, and once they're all seen through, there is nothing left I presume.


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[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

All I want yo say for today is thank you.

Maybe they'll be something to work with tomorrow.

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[jrm72]

Hey Vince,

A line in a book has prompted me to post -

"Pure consciousness, which is consciousness without the witnessing aspect."

Sadly I only have thoughts about this.
It makes sense (ie; my thoughts agree) that there is only true non duality once the witness disappears.
Is this what you're pointing to?

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[vinceschubert]

'evening James,

Yes, stories all the way down, and once they're all seen through, there is nothing left I presume.

I don't know what that "nothing" is.
Everything is there. It's our relationship to it that changes.

"Pure consciousness, which is consciousness without the witnessing aspect."

I don't know about this either.
Consciousness is a story. Witnessing is a story.
If you use those words to communicate experience, I'll allow it, but don't tell me about a thing using those words.
What I'm pointing to, no words can accurately portray.
Thought won't get you there.
Thoughts can't understand it.
It is what is happening to you now..
..or more accurately, it is the happening that you are now.

v

[jrm72]

Morning Vince,

I don't know what that "nothing" is.
Everything is there. It's our relationship to it that changes.

I have a question (which is obviously all from thought, so please ignore it if it makes no sense) -
When everything is put up on the noticeboard (so to speak), even awareness, what is left to have a relationship with everything?
Is it everything having a relationship ship with everything?


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[vinceschubert]

Good evening James,

Is it everything having a relationship ship with everything?

If I say that that is right, do you think (ha) that it is possible for the mind to comprehend?
How about you stop trying to figure it out and just experience it?
What is it?
What you are experiencing?
Does that include thinking?
yes.
Does that include feelings?
yes
Does that include anything else?
If you experience it, yes.
What if I don't like it?
Are you experiencing it? then yes?
does it include the content of my thought?
No. You don't experience that. ..but you do experience a reaction to that.
Do I experience time?
No. That is a concept. What I do experience is a reaction from comparing two stories (of now and then)
Do I experience distance?
No, that is a concept. What I do experience is a reaction from comparing two stories (of here and there)
Do I experience aging?
No, that is a concept. What I do experience is a reaction from comparing two stories (of how I look and feel now to how I remember)
Do I experience others?
No, that is a concept. What I do experience is a reaction from comparing two stories (of me and not me)
Do I experience the world out there?
No, that is a concept. What I do experience is a reaction from comparing two stories (of in here and out there - both illusions)


with much love

vince

[jrm72]

Hey Vince,

"Is it everything having a relationship ship with everything?"

If I say that that is right, do you think (ha) that it is possible for the mind to comprehend?

Without having experienced this, there is no chance of comprehension.
When the experience happens, will see if comprehension is possible then.

How about you stop trying to figure it out and just experience it?

Trying. (and yes trying doesn't work)
How about Letting.




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[jrm72]

Morning Vince,


Hilarious thought this morning -

In my last postvI wrote about "trying" not working, and giving "letting" a shot.
Realised this morning that I'm trying to let it happen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


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