This is not coming from looking at experience directly. This is coming from thinking. But thinking has no value in this inquiry. Since the whole illusion is created by thoughts.I would say that this aware entity is independent but not entirely separate from thoughts and sensations. Thought and sensation is perceived by something (or no-thing) that is unchanging, it must be this way in order to be able to identify and create context for the constant fluctuation in thought and sensation. It is like the white space on the paper that is necessary to see the words.
You have to step outside of the realm of thoughts. You cannot get anywhere with thinking. It’s a dead end.
Rather, turn your attention to the immediacy of experience, BEFORE any thinking.
Your above comment is an intellectual reasoning. But you cannot reason yourself into SEEING how things actually are. Reality is before any reasoning.
Please read your above comment. Can you see that you are guessing here?I suppose I am referring to the point of awareness that is perceiving the thoughts. I suppose I could say that this “I” doesn’t really own the thoughts any more than it owns the sky that is visible through the window
Guessing = thinking
Forget about everything you’ve ever learned about this topic. Put aside all learned concepts about awareness, non-duality, anything about this topic. You don’t need them. They are in the way of seeing the simplicity of what is.
You have to get to the place of not-knowing. Like a child, who has no learned knowledge about anything.
Your awareness? So there is a you + awareness? And you own this awareness?From this perspective here I see a form that is connected to sensations in my awareness.
Please Tom, drop all of these. If you want to see things for yourself, you have to let go all of your ideas. You have to let go off your intellect.
The thing is that this is also coming from thinking, although you might not see it.There is seemingly a barrier between the edges (skin) of this body and the other objects in my awareness, which in some ways makes it feel “closer” - like this side of the skin is me and the other side is not. All sensation seems to be coming through this body and not the other objects in my awareness.
Please put aside these analogies. All this intellectual knowledge you’ve learned throughout the years prevents you to notice the simplicity of what is.There is also an observer of these sensations which suggests to me that what I am is not only the body, but encompasses everything in my awareness, like the white space and the letters analogy i used earlier. A space within which the form and sensations of the body can be known.
This is where we have to focus. Put aside the notion of awareness for a while, and let’s dive deep into investigation this seeming control and thoughts.It certainly feels like there is some part of this that has some autonomy. There seems to be a choice of where to place the focus of awareness. But there also seems to be choice within thought even though I see them as automatic and transient just like all bodily sensations.
We go back to continue investigating thoughts.
Seeing clearly thoughts is the foundation.
Try an experiment.
Try to create a thought. Any thought, from scratch. What do you find?
Do you notice how thoughts seem to appear, hang around for a while and somehow pass, and then the next thought come?
What is making thoughts to appear?
Now try preventing a thought from appearing. Is it possible?