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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:06 pm

Isn't LOOKING a kind of receiving?

You don't push. You receive the image.

There is no "self" image to be seen. It doesn't exist.

No image, no sound, no touch, no smell, no taste.

Nothing.

No "self."

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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Firen » Wed Oct 15, 2025 4:15 am

Hi Stacy,

This video was excellent. I loved it.

Thanks for sharing it.

Firen

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Oct 15, 2025 7:05 am

Good! You're welcome.

Angelo Dillulo is very good. Feel free to watch others, but be sure to keep practicing.

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Firen » Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:47 pm

The part about beliefs really struck me: that every thought is a belief. It's the thoughts that you take to be "just the way the world is" that you can't even see are beliefs. And that the belief that is keeping you from seeing can be whisper-thin.

"I am not there yet." Is a thought that comes. "I haven't experienced any shift." Is a thought that comes.

This is doubt. It's the very first thing you pointed me to. I didn't see that then. I didn't see that as doubt. It was "just the truth."

What other things are "just the truth?"

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:58 pm

What other things are "just the truth?"
ALL THOUGHTS ARE LIES. Every single one.

"I am not there yet."

No. You've always been there. All you have to do is stop believing the lies that are thoughts.

Angelo Dillulo says it best, "Simply Always Awake."

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Firen » Wed Oct 15, 2025 11:40 pm

ALL THOUGHTS ARE LIES. Every single one.
Wow. That's insane.

I was driving to the doctor's office today and I was watching the cars and the people walking along the street and it felt like it was a play unfolding around me and I was part of it. Like it was a drama that was happening all around, on the street, in the sky, everywhere. It was all happening on its own.

I was then sitting in the waiting room watching the thoughts come in. One thought said: "Oooh maybe i'll wake up for my birthday tomorrow!" The thought was so absurd that I started laughing out loud.

Dilullo described it as a magician throwing every trick in the book at you to see which one will stick. How about this thought? How about this thought? Or this one? Or this one?

How hilarious.

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:02 am

Hi,
it was a play unfolding around me and I was part of it. Like it was a drama that was happening all around, on the street, in the sky, everywhere. It was all happening on its own.
Beautiful! How did it FEEL to see this?

We're looking for a shift in perception.

Did you experience that? Is that what it felt like?

Happy Birthday a day early!

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Firen » Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:40 am

How did it FEEL to see this?

We're looking for a shift in perception.

Did you experience that? Is that what it felt like?
Yes, it felt exactly like a shift in perception. It felt both strange and fascinating, very different from usual. The world around me all of a sudden appeared very clear, light, and open. There was nothing blocking any of it—if that makes sense. I saw the airplane in the sky directly and clearly. And the people walking were so clear. Where attention went, it was just there. Nothing competing for it or pulling it this way or that. There was no worry anywhere. There was no way to misstep. I remember changing lanes on the highway and a usual thought/worry of getting in an accident appeared...and then it just drifted off again, weightless. It was of no importance at all. What happened or didn't happen was just...fine.

I feel back mostly in my normal state now. A bit giddy. The mind still thinks it is "doing something" to make things happen and that it needs to figure out how to wake me up. I can feel it contracting around that—contracting around how to do it. Holding on and grasping.

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:22 am

Relax. Do not hold or grasp.

Contraction still indicates a lie.

Can you now say 100% there's no separate "self?"


This is like learning that there is no Santa Claus, that it is a man in a red suit - even when he puts the red suit back on you still know there is no Santa Claus.

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Firen » Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:25 pm

Hi Stacy,

Yes, the contraction is a lie. The self wants to say "I did it! I'm doing it!"
Can you now say 100% there's no separate "self?"
The self still very much thinks it is making things happen. When I saw clearly yesterday, I looked at other people and saw that they had no self. I did not turn the awareness onto myself in those moments to inquire. I did see the thoughts that create the self popping up, and they felt rather comical at the time. Like absurd clownery happening in the head. I was not tempted to believe them. I felt like laughing at them.

But here from where I sit today, the self still has a very strong pull. It's back to business as usual.

I seem to have insights when I'm driving, which is interesting. I think (LOL) that it puts me into a relaxed, meditative state that is hard for me to achieve when I'm sitting to meditate because when I meditate I am trying. When I'm driving part of the mind is occupied and I'm not really trying to achieve anything so it's much more relaxed watching.

What is un-enlightening me?

Shall I continue with ButtChair?

Firen

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Firen » Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:30 pm

The mind has decided that this is real and the clear space from yesterday is "alternate." That it must do something to flip into that state or achieve it. That this is all real and that that is the dream.

Thoughts. Beliefs. Contraction. Obscurity.

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:38 pm

Tell your mind it is dead wrong.
The self still very much thinks it is making things happen
THERE IS NO SEPARATE SELF.

this is delusional. A lie.

Read this. Twice.

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/res ... ar-seeker/

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:06 pm

Still there, Firen?

You might give this guiding video from Angelo Dillulo a try. You can repeat it as often as you like. Same for all the pointers, since it's about looking, not right answers.

https://youtu.be/fEv7UF8evQ4?si=0quQlOl6c4S5QvUU

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Firen » Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:55 pm

Hello Stacy!

Very sorry for the lapse.

I'm still here. I'm still looking.

I will occasionally watch an Angelo Dillulo video (I really like him, he explains things very clearly). I'm doing a lot of sensory feeling with my eyes closed, like ButtChair, but any part of the body, more often than not focusing on my hand. I can see how the mind creates "hand" and holds it floating there. When I focus on the sensation, mind shows me "hand." I can see though that "hand" is held in the mind; it is not actually real. What is real is just the sensation, which is diffuse and indeterminate.

I have also been doing self-inquiry and some meditation. I've had some insights, but nothing like a big perceptual shift that lasted any significant amount of time.

Open to any and all suggestions.

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Firen

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Re: Requesting a guide

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:23 pm

Okay. Itv isn't about how long it lasts.

Did you or did you not experience a shift in perception?

Saw Santa/"self" without the red suit?
Yes, it felt exactly like a shift in perception. It felt both strange and fascinating, very different from usual. The world around me all of a sudden appeared very clear, light, and open. There was nothing blocking any of it—if that makes sense. I saw the airplane in the sky directly and clearly. And the people walking were so clear. Where attention went, it was just there. Nothing competing for it or pulling it this way or that. There was no worry anywhere. There was no way to misstep. I remember changing lanes on the highway and a usual thought/worry of getting in an accident appeared...and then it just drifted off again, weightless. It was of no importance at all. What happened or didn't happen was just...fine.
Has it happened again?

These are glimpses of the truth. They'll come & go.

I can't show you what you've already seen. If you've seen there is no "self" & you're stuck in doubt, you'll need to question your expectations.

Watch these, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

This is just a beginning.

We have a couple of support groups that are meeting via teleconference and I'll give you the information on that.

There are 3 meetings.

Vince Shubert runs one on the weekends. Write to vinceschubert@gmail.com for the link & schedule.

Luchana & Lubo run one on Thursdays. Write to Luchana at luchanauzunova@gmail.com

Ilona holds a monthly meeting. Write admin@ilonaciunaite.com for that link & schedule

Maybe chatting with & listening to others will help.

Loving,
~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti


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