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No self

Postby AmritSG » Sat May 31, 2025 12:20 pm

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
The compulsive and incessant voice in the head that consists of a continuous stream of conditioned thinking that I am identified with or hypnotised by. The thinker of thoughts which is itself another thought!

The activity of mind that divides the whole into separate parts or objects such that there seems to be a subject-object relationship.

What are you looking for at LU?
Guidance in clearly seeing the unreality of a separate self and thus uncovering my true nature. I seek help in ending my current unbearable and intense suffering caused solely by my misplaced and unconscious belief in the existence of a fictitious, separate, suffering sense of self.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
To help me see clearly that there is no separation whatsoever, conceptually and perceptually, from what is. The whole. The consciousness that is whole, timeless and complete already. To help me sit and welcome all thoughts and, feel into any disturbing or uncomfortable emotion, feeling and sensation that arises in the body.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I have been a seeker for some 25 years. I have done some self inquiry to various degrees and some meditation.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self?
10

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Thu Jun 05, 2025 9:52 pm

Hi, I’m May and I’ll be your guide!
How would you like me to call you? :)

Thank you for sharing so clearly. Let’s go straight to what’s here, beyond all the concepts and ideas about self and no-self.

As you read these words, there’s an experience happening... sounds, sights, sensations, thoughts. Take a moment and see: is there actually someone here, separate from this flow?

When a thought arises like “I want to see this clearly”...
Where does it come from?
Did you choose it, or did it just appear, like a breeze or a noise?

Look at the feeling of “I’m suffering.”
Is there an actual “I” suffering, or is it just the feeling of suffering itself, appearing and fading, without an owner?

Now look at the desire to “uncover my true nature.”
Does that desire belong to anyone? Or is it just another thought and feeling, coming and going without an owner?

Take a moment to drop all thoughts and just feel into the body, notice the raw sensations of what’s here right now. Let everything else fall away.

Write back with what you see. No theories, no explanations, just what’s directly found in this moment.

Is there an “I” here in any shape or form, or is there simply life unfolding itself?

Keep it simple and honest. I look forward to hearing what you notice.
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:39 am

Hi, I’m May and I’ll be your guide!
How would you like me to call you? :)

Thank you for sharing so clearly. Let’s go straight to what’s here, beyond all the concepts and ideas about self and no-self.

As you read these words, there’s an experience happening... sounds, sights, sensations, thoughts. Take a moment and see: is there actually someone here, separate from this flow?

When a thought arises like “I want to see this clearly”...
Where does it come from?
Did you choose it, or did it just appear, like a breeze or a noise?

Look at the feeling of “I’m suffering.”
Is there an actual “I” suffering, or is it just the feeling of suffering itself, appearing and fading, without an owner?

Now look at the desire to “uncover my true nature.”
Does that desire belong to anyone? Or is it just another thought and feeling, coming and going without an owner?

Take a moment to drop all thoughts and just feel into the body, notice the raw sensations of what’s here right now. Let everything else fall away.

Write back with what you see. No theories, no explanations, just what’s directly found in this moment.

Is there an “I” here in any shape or form, or is there simply life unfolding itself?

Keep it simple and honest. I look forward to hearing what you notice.
Hi May,

Lovely to hear from you and to know that you will be my guide-in-shining armour!

My full name is Amrit Singh but you may call me Amrit.

I just wanted to acknowledge that I have received your email and will get back to you with simple and honest experiential answers shortly.

Kind regards.

Amrit

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Fri Jun 06, 2025 6:46 pm

Hi, I’m May and I’ll be your guide!
How would you like me to call you? :)

Thank you for sharing so clearly. Let’s go straight to what’s here, beyond all the concepts and ideas about self and no-self.

As you read these words, there’s an experience happening... sounds, sights, sensations, thoughts. Take a moment and see: is there actually someone here, separate from this flow?

When a thought arises like “I want to see this clearly”...
Where does it come from?
Did you choose it, or did it just appear, like a breeze or a noise?

Look at the feeling of “I’m suffering.”
Is there an actual “I” suffering, or is it just the feeling of suffering itself, appearing and fading, without an owner?

Now look at the desire to “uncover my true nature.”
Does that desire belong to anyone? Or is it just another thought and feeling, coming and going without an owner?

Take a moment to drop all thoughts and just feel into the body, notice the raw sensations of what’s here right now. Let everything else fall away.

Write back with what you see. No theories, no explanations, just what’s directly found in this moment.

Is there an “I” here in any shape or form, or is there simply life unfolding itself?

Keep it simple and honest. I look forward to hearing what you notice.
Hi May,

Lovely to hear from you and to know that you will be my guide-in-shining armour!

My full name is Amrit Singh but you may call me Amrit.

I just wanted to acknowledge that I have received your email and will get back to you with simple and honest experiential answers shortly.

Kind regards.

Amrit
Hello May,

I see there is experience happening....sounds, sights, sensations, thoughts. This flow of experience, of perceptions and thoughts, is arising spontaneously or automatically without a someone called I or me.

The thought 'I want to see this clearly' comes of its own accord....i see it as a movement or activity. Therefore I did not choose it. It just appears as you mentioned like a breeze, a noise...without need for reason.

I see there is a feeling of suffering but then an I comes in very quickly, simultaneously even, to claim ownership over the suffering such that it becomes my personal suffering.

The desire to 'uncover my true nature' is just another thought-feeling pattern that arises of its own accord. It does not belong to me let alone anyone.

I feel a warmth and aliveness within the body. And tightness around my neck and shoulders. Upon closer investigation, there seems to be an I which complains that this tightness has become chronic and problematic for me. There is resistance to this discomfort...in this case life is simply not unfolding as it should.

I would be most grateful for your guidance.

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:14 am

Hi May,

Warmest greetings.

I have replied to your questions. I am just checking in to see if you received my email.

I am really looking forward to your guidance.

Kind regards.

Amrit

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:06 am

Hi Amrit, how r you feeling right now? :)

Sorry for the delay, I’m not sure why, but I didn’t receive notifications for your messages here. I’ll activate them manually now and see if that works.

So, thank you for looking with such clarity and honesty.

Yes, there is a clear seeing that experience unfolds by itself: sounds, sensations, thoughts, all arising without anyone behind them. You also noticed something very important, that a sense of “I” quickly shows up to claim certain experiences, like suffering or discomfort, as “mine.”

Let’s look more closely here.

You said: “
There seems to be an I which complains that this tightness has become chronic and problematic for me.”
Take a fresh look at that now.

This sense of “I who complains”, can you find it directly, as anything other than another thought or feeling?

Is there any actual entity resisting the discomfort, or is resistance itself just another movement, another sensation, another thought saying “this shouldn’t be here”?

Look carefully: does life ever unfold “as it should”? According to whom? Who decides that?

Right now, is it possible to allow that tightness fully, without a story, without resistance, just as it is?

And the one who would allow it, can that one be found, or is that also just another thought arising?

See if you can notice the whole game of claiming, resisting, fixing... and whether there’s anyone behind it at all. Or is it just life unfolding, even the resistance itself included?

Please do this exercise as many times as needed, and tell me what you find:

THE CUP EXERCISE — What is a thought, and what is not?

Place a cup in front of you.
Look at it.

Now pause.
Notice the thoughts that come:
“This is a cup.”
“It’s white.”
“I use this to drink.”
Just watch them arise.

Now shift attention.
Drop all naming. Drop all describing.
What’s left?

Just shapes. Colors. Light. Shadows.
No words. No meanings.
Only what’s actually here.

Now ask:
Is the word “cup” in what’s seen?
Or is it a thought added after the seeing?

Let things get very quiet. Don’t answer from memory—look again.

Now say out loud:
“What here is not a thought?”

Let the question hit fully.
Stay with it.

What, in your immediate experience, is not a thought?

Don’t think the answer.
Look.
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:58 pm

Hello May! So nice to hear from you again. I am glad that we have re-established contact.

I am amazed, perhaps even taken aback, at the clarity that is arising here day by day, as I dive deep with your clear guidance, into what is actually already always here and is never absent...always present. So thank you May, from the bottom of my heart, for being here with me, always repeatedly pointing to what is here already in direct experience. :)

Upon looking again, deep looking, there is clearly no "I who complains' here. There is only sensation arising here, with no one behind it, what I described before as 'tightness' in my neck and shoulders.

There is just resistance arising here without an entity or anyone behind it. There is no one resisting the sensation called discomfort. I see resistance as just another movement or activity of the mind...a thought-feeling, a sensation, a desire claiming 'this shouldn't be here'.

I see clearly now that life just unfolds automatically, naturally, flawlessly without anyone here called Amrit making it all happen. It is all happening, it is all unfolding on its own, flawlessly or perfectly. An entity called me, or Amrit, in the mind, in imagination, is not needed for this unfoldment.

Yes indeed, it is possible now to allow the sensation in the neck and shoulders to be here for as long as needed, without a story, without resistance, without the need to fix it or get rid of it.
And the one to allow it, welcome it, or not allow it nor welcome it is simply not here! Wow! What a revelation!! :)) That one who isn't here is just another movement, a thought, a feeling, a desire arising! What a relief to see this! I feel a lightness here and now!

I see clearly that it is all a game of thought...the movement of mind into abstractions, concepts. Of claiming, resisting, fixing....it is just happening or arising without anyone or someone or an identity behind it. Life is just unfolding, playing, reposing...and it includes the resistance, the claiming, the fixing, the getting rid of. :))

I am smiling and laughing May! So grateful for this clear seeing with your help.

I will stop here for a moment. I hope you dont mind. I just would like to take it all in...and appreciate what has been revealed here.

I promise to get back to you shortly on the exercise with the cup. Without thinking as you suggested.

With deepest gratitude,

Amrit.

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:51 am

Hi May,

Namaste.

I hope you are enjoying your weekend. I live in Singapore. Where do you live if I may ask? :)

As you suggested, and I am being honest and sincere here, I did the Cup Exercise quite a few times and I am still continuing to do it as I find that it brings me greater clarity every time I do it.

At the beginning of the exercise, the mind was busy naming, describing, labelling, categorizing what was being seen...the cup. I had to go or refer back to thought to 'make sense' of what was being seen.

It is now clear that the word/thought/knowledge 'cup' is not in the seeing, it is added AFTER the seeing. I now see that thought or the movement of mind had previously intervened almost simultaneously, at the beginning of this exercise, with the seeing or looking.

In response to your question, 'What here is not a thought?', there is only an aliveness here, a silence, a presence. I know these are just mere labels on this, which already IS, and that this cannot be named.

I find that aliveness and seeing are one and the same. The aliveness is this seeing and they cannot be differentiated from even what thought calls cup. It is all seamless without an edge or boundary anywhere. One. A complete whole. This aliveness is also the seeing and the cup simultaneously and cannot be divided, cannot be differentiated. As such, it can be said that there is only aliveness here....or all there is aliveness. A singular field of aliveness out of which seeing and the cup are made.

I am looking forward to hearing back from you and welcome your guidance.

Kind regards.

Amrit

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:49 pm

Hey Amrit! That’s really nice to hear from you!

My weekend was a breeze, quiet, simple, just unfolding as it did.
I’m writing to you from Brazil, by the way, sunny and still right now. :)

Let’s take a deeper look together…
I am amazed, perhaps even taken aback, at the clarity that is arising here day by day…
Beautiful. And now let’s look even more closely:
Is there anyone here trying to “keep” the clarity?

Or is the thought “clarity is happening” just another movement arising in this space, like a breeze, like a bird call?
There is no one resisting the sensation called discomfort. I see resistance as just another movement…
Yes. Is there anything behind the resistance now?
Or just the raw sensation, untouched by meaning?

Now that this is seen, is there any need for the thought:
“Something has been seen”?

Or is that just another ripple in the same ocean?
I now see that thought or the movement of mind had previously intervened almost simultaneously…
Exactly. And right now, without naming, describing, or labeling, what is actually here?
No “viewer.” No “state.” No “Amrit.” Isn't it?
Just life, completely ordinary, and already full.

Now try this:

Let go of even the word “aliveness.”
Drop “presence.” Drop “seeing.”
Let it all fall away for a moment.

What’s left?

Is there anything to hold onto right now?


Is anything missing in this moment?

Even this moment doesn’t belong to anyone.

Looking forward to your reply, always from the simplicity of what is right now, without effort, without owner.

One thing I didn’t say earlier, please, when replying to a question, use the quote function to highlight the question you’re answering.Throughout this inquiry, please answer the questions one by one, not grouped together.

Please watch this video on how to use the quote function properly. It will help us keep the dialogue clear and focused:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fAToDNh9hQ
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:17 pm

Hi May,

Thank you for your kind reply and guidance.

I am using my android Samsung mobile phone and not a computer for our ongoing inquiry together and so do not know how to use such a quote function on my phone. But I will do my very best to answer the questions that you are posing one by one and not lump them all together. Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience caused.

So here goes....

"I am amazed, even taken aback, at the clarity that is arising here day by day."

Is there anyone here trying to "keep" the clarity?

Answer: No, there isn't an entity or someone here trying to be clear.

Or is the thought "clarity is happening" just another movement arising in this space, like a breeze, like a bird call?

Answer: Yes, it is just another thought arising in this space, happening or unfolding for no rhyme or reason nor for anyone.

"There is no one resisting the sensation called discomfort. I see resistance as just another movement…"
Yes. Is there anything behind the resistance now?

Answer: I still feel there is someone made up of stories or thoughts behind the resistance now. And I find that I get identified far too easily, to be honest.

Or just the raw sensation, untouched by meaning?

Answer: I struggle to feel the raw sensation and get stuck in my mind, in my thoughts, in my story. I need more guidance here May, especially with resistance, since it arises quite often in my daily life. I am feeling frustration and confusion with this.

Now that this is seen, is there any need for the thought:
“Something has been seen”?

Answer: No, I see that as a thought.

Or is that just another ripple in the same ocean?

Answer: Yes, it is another ripple in the ocean...it is seen.

" I now see that thought or the movement of mind had previously intervened almost simultaneously…"
Exactly. And right now, without naming, describing, or labeling, what is actually here?
No “viewer.” No “state.” No “Amrit.” Isn't it?
Just life, completely ordinary, and already full.

Answer: Viewer, Observer, State, Amrit...these are more thoughts or labels.


Now try this:

Let go of even the word “aliveness.”
Drop “presence.” Drop “seeing.”
Let it all fall away for a moment.

What’s left?
Answer: Nothing...but even 'nothing' is a thought.

Is there anything to hold onto right now?
Answer: Nothing....but even this is a label.

Is anything missing in this moment?
Answer: No. Nothing is missing.

Looking forward to your clear pointing and guidance, especially with resistance that arises almost daily here, dear May.

With deepest gratitude,
Amrit
PS There is an 11 hour time difference between Brazil and Singapore!

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:52 am

Thank you for your sincere responses, Amrit!
And no worries about the quote format, all is good.

Let’s look together.
I still feel there is someone made up of stories or thoughts behind the resistance now. And I find that I get identified far too easily, to be honest.


Good that this is being seen.
Now pause and look again.

What exactly tells you that there’s “someone” behind the resistance?
Is it a direct experience,
or is it simply a thought saying, “This is happening to me”?

Look now. Is there any actual ‘self’ resisting,
or just the experience, plus a thought claiming it?
I struggle to feel the raw sensation and get stuck in my mind, in my thoughts, in my story.


Yes, that’s common. So let’s go straight into this now.

Next time resistance appears, or even right now if it’s present, pause.
Don’t fix it, don’t explain it, just let it be fully here.

Then drop the word “resistance” completely.
Seriously, don’t let the mind touch it.

Ask,
“What is this without the name?”
What remains? Heat? Tension? Movement? Where?

Stay with the raw sensation, let it unfold.

Now ask,
“Is there a resister anywhere in this?”
Is someone doing this, or is it just another happening?

And if the thought appears,
“This shouldn’t be here,”
look at it too, just another thought trying to claim ownership.

Finally ask,
“If I don’t label this or resist it, what exactly is wrong?”

Let whatever is found come directly, not what you think, but what’s seen.
I need more guidance here May, especially with resistance, since it arises quite often in my daily life
.



Yes, resistance may arise.
But look, does resistance resist anything?

Or is it just a wave of energy, and then a thought comes in saying, “This shouldn’t be here”?

You don’t need to fix this.
You only need to see, there’s no one here resisting.

Let me know what’s found in the direct experience.

I’ll be away on a work trip and won’t be able to reply until Monday,
so take this time to investigate deeply before responding.

Loving,
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:40 am

Namaste to you May Ji!

Since you are away on a work trip and unable to respond until Monday, I have time to look deeply before responding to your questions as you suggested.

"I still feel there is someone made up of stories or thoughts behind the resistance now. And I find that I get identified far too easily, to be honest."

Now pause and look again.

Q. What exactly tells you that there’s “someone” behind the resistance?
A. As I look now, I see this 'someone' as just another thought or concept arising. A movement in the mind.

Q. Is it a direct experience, or is it simply a thought saying, “This is happening to me”?
A. In direct experience, there are just sights and sounds and sensations. So this movement saying 'This is happening to me' is clearly a thought or concept in the mind that comes AFTER direct experience. It is mentation, a mental addition or story, added onto direct experience.

Q. Look now. Is there any actual ‘self’ resisting,
or just the experience, plus a thought claiming it?
A. In looking right now, there isn't a 'self' or 'me' resisting. There is just experience. (On previous occasions, a self or me or I thought would quickly come in and claim the experience of resistance saying 'I am resisting again. Why am I resisting again? Why cant I let go of resistance that brings me so much pain and suffering?')

"I struggle to feel the raw sensation and get stuck in my mind, in my thoughts, in my story."

Yes, that’s common. So let’s go straight into this now.

Next time resistance appears, or even right now if it’s present, pause.
Don’t fix it, don’t explain it, just let it be fully here.

Then drop the word “resistance” completely.
Seriously, don’t let the mind touch it.

Ask,
“What is this without the name?”
A. A sensation.

What remains? Heat? Tension? Movement?
A. Tension. Aching. Tightening.

Where?
A. In my neck and shoulders. It's physical pain that is very acute and piercing....like having a frozen neck and shoulders.

Stay with the raw sensation, let it unfold.

Now ask,
“Is there a resister anywhere in this?”
A. No, there isn't an entity or a resister called I or me anywhere in this. There is only raw sensation.

Is someone doing this, or is it just another happening?
A. There isn't someone or an entity called I or me here doing this. There is only an experience of raw sensation which is just another happening.

And if the thought appears,
“This shouldn’t be here,”
look at it too, just another thought trying to claim ownership.
A. Yes I see 'This shouldn't be here' as just another thought or mentation claiming ownership.

Finally ask,
“If I don’t label this or resist it, what exactly is wrong?”
A. Nothing. 'It's wrong' is another story or thought labelling or judging the raw sensation that is appearing. It's claiming ownership and preventing the raw sensation from actually being felt.

Let whatever is found come directly, not what you think, but what’s seen.

"I need more guidance here May, especially with resistance, since it arises quite often in my daily life."

Yes, resistance may arise.
But look, does resistance resist anything?
A. The resistance/raw sensation does not resist anything. There is no one behind it and there is no one doing it. It is just happening. It is only when an I or me or an entity claims ownership or doership over the experience that resistance to what is arising comes about.

Or is it just a wave of energy, and then a thought comes in saying, “This shouldn’t be here”?
A. Yes, it is just like a wave of energy, and then an I or self (i.e. thought) comes in claiming ownership and doership, "I am resisting. This is wrong....this shouldn't be here" which amplifies or charges the raw sensation into emotion or feeling.

You don’t need to fix this.
You only need to see, there’s no one here resisting.
A. Resistance may arise like the wind blowing or a bird singing but there isn't anyone behind it doing it and claiming, "I am resisting....it's wrong...and this shouldn't be here."

Yes, May, as you pointed out to me in your earlier email,

"See if you can notice the whole game of claiming, resisting, fixing... and whether there’s anyone behind it at all. Or is it just life unfolding, even the resistance itself included?"

This self, I or me that is doing the claiming, resisting, fixing cannot be found in direct experience. I cannot directly see, hear or touch this self or I or me in DE. It is just a thought or concept or image in the mind that builds a conceptual story or framework of meaning around what is...DE or direct experience.

Your penetrating and potent guidance to clear seeing is so much appreciated here.

With love and gratitude,

Amrit

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:56 pm

Hi Amrit!!

It’s great to reconnect after my trip, thank you for giving this time to the seeing.

And I appreciate the depth of your last message.
That clear seeing you described, that there’s only sensation and thought appearing without an owner is very alive and simple.

Let’s look into this a bit deeper:

When you check now, right here, in this present moment:
is there any need to hold on to the insight you had before?
Is there someone here who must remember or repeat what was seen?


Or is this moment already complete, nothing to add or grasp?

And if you look carefully at the sense of “me who saw clearly,” can you find it as something solid and real?
Or is it just another thought passing through the same open space where all else appears?

You can also check this directly as the day goes by:
When thoughts of resistance, clarity, progress, or confusion show up, is there anyone at all they belong to?
Or is life simply moving, thought and sensation together, without a separate center?

Take a few minutes with this before answering.
There’s nothing to do and nowhere to go, only this moment, always already here.

Looking forward to hearing what you find.

Warmly,
May.

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― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:49 pm

Hello May,

Welcome back and it's wonderful to reconnect with you again.

I feel blessed to be doing this inquiry with your clear and much appreciated guidance.

I find all your inquiry questions really penetrating as I am required to look, and to look deeply and clearly, without the old ingrained and conditioned habit of moving into my thinking mind, into mentation.

"That clear seeing you described, that there’s only sensation and thought appearing without an owner is very alive and simple."

Let’s look into this a bit deeper:

Q. When you check now, right here, in this present moment:
Is there any need to hold on to the insight you had before?
A. There is no need to hold on to the insight I had before because it has receded into the past and is stored as memory. If a new insight appears here in the present, it will appear in this open space where all else appears spontaneously.

Q. Is there someone here who must remember or repeat what was seen?
A. There isn't an I or me here, an owner or doer, who must remember (or forget), or repeat what was seen. It is in and through thought, the I or me identity, that the past appears or a memory is repeated or recycled.

Q. Or is this moment already complete, nothing to add or grasp?
A. The open space of this moment in which anything can arise or happen, without an owner or doer, is already complete and whole. Nothing need be added or grasped, nothing is missing. Only a conceived or imagined I or me, an owner and doer of experience, who lives in past and future, will find something missing or incomplete or not enough in this moment and will therefore grasp or cling and need to be aggrandized.

Q. And if you look carefully at the sense of “me who saw clearly,” can you find it as something solid and real?
A. The "me who saw clearly" is another mentation or movement, a thought or concept that is just another happening like the wind blowing or a bird singing without anyone or a separate center behind it. No owner nor doer. Therefore I cannot find anyone solid or real behind it. I cannot find a me or I as something solid and real. Only an open transparent and timeless space, this moment, in which all else arises or happens.

Q. Or is it just another thought passing through the same open space where all else appears?
A. I guess I have answered this above already :) but yes, it is just a thought, more mentation passing through the vast open space where all else appears for no reason or purpose at all...and for no one!

You can also check this directly as the day goes by:
Q. When thoughts of resistance, clarity, progress, or confusion show up, is there anyone at all they belong to?
A.Yes I am now checking this directly as each day goes by as you have suggested or instructed May. Resistance, clarity, progress, confusion, frustration as they show up are all seen to be thoughts, feelings and sensations arising in the open space. They do not belong to anyone like a separate self called I or me. No owner or doer or thinker of this mentation.

Q. Or is life simply moving, thought and sensation together, without a separate center?
A. Yes, life is simply unfolding and moving and dancing, thought and sensation together, without a separate center, doer or owner running the show. It is all happening or arising for no rhyme or reason whatsoever in this transparent vastness.

"There's nothing to do and nowhere to go, only this moment, always already here."

Yes May! Indeed. Thought invested with an I or me, a separate center or self, an owner and doer of experience, is always doing (seeking) to get somewhere in time and space in order to feel complete and whole and overlooks or misses this eternal or timeless moment, all there ever IS.

You and I, appearing as apparently two, in this One timeless moment. We, you and I, are but apparent movements in the One which never moves.

Deep gratitude for the blessing of your guidance, May.

Amrit

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:04 am

That’s so clear, Amrit!!

What you describe, this transparent, timeless openness where thoughts, sensations and feelings just come and go, is exactly what I’ve been pointing to.

And now, I’d like you to look at something very simple.
Is there any need at all to do anything with this?
Any need to hold on to these insights or make them last?

Or is this openness already complete, whether or not a thought appears that says I get it, I lost it, or I must deepen this?

When you check right here, do you see that even the thought I need to do more is just another appearance in this same space, empty of any owner?

Nothing to do.
Nothing to become.
Nothing to figure out.
Just this as it is, no one separate from it.

And you’ll notice that life keeps moving on its own.
The thoughts and sensations will dance, come and go.
And they don’t require a someone to manage them.

Take some time to simply rest in this.
Let yourself enjoy this total simplicity.

And whenever the thought arises that something more is needed, just look directly at what’s actually here.

I’m here whenever you’d like to check in.
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti


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