Feeling labeled "great!" Thought arising with (meaningless) content of "excitement when client begins to see the point of the exercises." :)
Actual Experience at this moment?
Sensation labeled fingers on keyboard.
Sound labeled music playing.
Color and image labeled computer & office.
Thoughts arising with story of enjoying.
So. . .
Yes, notice - is there some separate you and a separate thing you see or is it just "seeing happening?"
S: Where is this "I" thingy that is seeing something? Are you separate from the seeing of it? Really check.
A: This is just language, I have used 'I' for so long. This was referring to a thought anyway.
S: The idea of that is what? A thought? What have you learned about the content of a thought? Like, who told you that there was some thing called a "stimulus?" What is that?
A: In this case I had said about a stimulus directing me back to a task. What was meant was there was a thought that arose that linked what was being seen to the task that was being carried out. The mind connected the two and the thought suggested that what was seen was linked to what was happening.
In the last paragraph, simply "thoughts arose." All of that about something called "mind" doing something called "connecting" or "linking?" Pure nonsense - just a story - unless you can see, hear, touch, taste or smell it. Can you?
e point of these exercises is becoming more understandable, 'I' is a thought, the same as any other thought. It occurs but does not directly connect to reality. By seeing that 'I' is just another thought, the mind doesn't attach to things as much so there are less thoughts arising of wanting, needing or offence.
The above is much closer than the first one with "I," but what was meant was to stay closer to the original. What you did was fine. And look at this version, as another way to do it:
Understanding more the point of these exercises, and realising that "I" is the content of a thought like any other content of a thought and is not real. In fact it seems stupid to have ever believed that. Feeling a kind of peaceful numbness if that makes sense, in that there is no attaching to things the same way but that also brings peace because flowing with things happens.
That still isn't pure AE (Actual Experience) because . . . what is "understanding" or "realizing?" But good - progressing!
After you have done this, tell me what you noticed when you compared these three experiences:
1. Imaginary fruit
2. Real fruit
1. Imaginary Fruit: Lots of thoughts arose about what the apple would taste like and smell like, based on previous experiences. The thoughts had a lot of detail. A thought also arose to say that the thoughts would be very similar to the experience.
2. Real Fruit: When the actual apple was smelled a thought arose saying that the smell was very different to the one imagined. The same happened for the taste and texture. What was imagined was very different from what was experienced.
3. Description: When describing it, it was hard to do because the small range or words that we have can't describe the experience of eating an apple. Not even a little bit of it.
So, imagination seemed very inaccurate and misleading, the actual experience was full of information and sensations while the description was very poor at describing the experience as so much information was lost.
If I read this correctly, above is how that should be divided. Please help by making things easier for me to read & understand what part of a question you are answering, ok? Thanks!
Now - LOOK - for "I" - You "know" you won't find it, but the LOOKING is the important part. First, please watch this short video about LOOKING:
https://www.liberationunleashed.com/res ... h-honesty/
Now, LOOK for the place that separates your butt from the chair. Sensation is found, right? How do you know where the chair stops and the butt starts? Can you find this place? Really LOOK.
Report back with what is found. You're getting this, just keep going! Remember to answer everything marked blue & if I missed something - just answer all the questions.