No self?

[Kaiho]

Hi Andy,

Four guides have confirmed your answers and have no further questions, so you have officially graduated from LU. It has been a pleasure and an honor to confirm that you have seen through the illusion of self.

If you’d like to engage in further exploration, I’ve included the resource list below. You mentioned the fetters model, so you’re already aware that further liberation is possible: what we do in LU pertains to the first 3 of the 10 fetters. Seeing through the illusion of self is the beginning of the journey. The guide who asked the followup questions, Lubo, made this comment: “Yes, he saw the illusion, but he is not liberated. As he said, ‘I would lie if I say that I feel already 'One' with no separation all the time.’” If you like, you can reach out to Lubo. He also has a group, which is included in the resources below.

If you continue this work, you’ll find that you resonate with some guides more than others. Guides have different personalities and come from many different traditions. (I find the fetters model helpful, but not everyone uses this model.) If you find that you don’t resonate with one person, I encourage you to reach out to someone else.

LU Resource list:

Vince Schubert offers 3 weekly free zoom meetings which offer a space to listen, share, and even offer guidance as and if the inclination arises, with . Please contact Vince Schubert via email: vinceschubert@gmail.com for a link and schedule.

Simply Awake app - Free app for your phone that contains dozens of meditation that will help you to keep looking deeper.

A great video from Angelo Dilullo on this process and how it deepens on its own, if not resisted, YouTube: Simply Always Awake "Self and No-Self"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X_Xpd10pV0&t=38s

If you're interested in the 10 fetters go to Kevin Shanilek's website for information:
https://simplytheseen.com/

Also a great video conversation with Ilona and Kevin Shanilek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWfBHN6oRk

Pernille and Todd Lent Damore offer many helpful videos on each fetter on their YouTube Channels:
Unfettered Mindfulness and The Awakening Curriculum

Perfectly Okay.Org:
https://perfectlyokay.org/ - A free, supportive community that has many different modalities and meetings.

Luchana & Lubo have group on Thursdays. Please contact Luchana at:
luchanauzunova@gmail.com

Ilona holds a monthly meeting, contact admin@ilonaciunaite.com for that link and schedule.

Love,
Liam

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Hi Liam, thanks you. It was a pleasure and im honored too to have Met you.

Of these suggestion, do you know a guide that works on 121 for breaking 4-5 ?

Thanks you
With love
Andy

[Kaiho]

I'm not entirely sure who is taking one-on-one clients to work on fetters 4 and 5.

Pernille and Todd Lent Damore have a group that meets to work on the fetters, and they have lots of information on fetters 4 and 5 starting here: https://theawakeningcurriculum.com/thewantscurriculum
You can email them at unfetterdmindfulness@gmail.com

Lately they've offered a group on https://perfectlyokay.org, which is a free, supportive community that has many different modalities and meetings.

Kevin Shanilek also has lots of info on fetters 4 and 5, but he is not taking individual clients.
https://simplytheseen.com/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eye33kD4uSI

I hope this is helpful.

With love,
Liam

[Kaiho]

Hi Andy,

After speaking with another guide, and I have some more resources for you.

As you check out resources and guides, it's helpful to know that there are 2 ways of understanding and working with the fetters. Some guides (like Kevin in the resource list) believe that the 10 fetters are linear, and once a fetter falls, you're done with that fetter forever and move onto the next. Other guides (like Pernille and Todd) believe that the fetters are nonlinear, and you may have to circle back and deal with issues related to fetters you've already broken.

Here are 3 other guides who have groups, and some of them take 1-on-1 clients. I believe these guides follow the linear model. Some may charge a fee or request donations for 1-on-1 guidance.

Steffi
https://www.facebook.com/10fetterguide

Christiana Michelberger
https://www.facebook.com/findingawakening/
https://findingawakening.com/about/

Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/715430672860996

Love,
Liam