I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:04 am

And "I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home." what does that mean? Answer freshly and innocently, from the heart. Don't hurry to answer, stay with the question until a clearly heartfelt answer comes.
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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Truthfull » Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:06 am

It means that I’m sick of seeking, yet I can’t stop. I just want to forget this shit and go back to being fully mind identified.

I have not been on here for a while. I don’t know why. I do the Vince classes.

Denis

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Postby Truthfull » Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:10 am

It feels like I’m only now dealing with anger. It’s very slow to show up. No being expressed your decades, it’s now a feeling of being unwell all the time. So sick of this.

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:25 pm

Sorry things are hard this way. It sounds like focusing on emotions/sensation and compassioate relating with your self and others is a good focus. Sounds like live meetings is a good choice for you. I think particularly Alans kind and heart centered attitude could be good for you. Feel free to share more about what happens in Vince's meetings or ask questions.
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Elad

Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.

- Kahlil Gibran

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:29 pm

Some types of deep psychological trauma are relational in nature, they were at least partly created in relationships and are most often healed in relationships. That's part of the reason with what you describe a high quality therapy and/or Vince's meetings might be the best fit now.
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Elad

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- Kahlil Gibran

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Truthfull » Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:37 am

I agree. I’m also doing g a Rupert Spira online retreat now. I’ll keep you pistted. Starting a new job in 10 days after being out for a year. Let’s see how that goes.

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:46 am

Good to hear. Good luck with the new job and may the retreat be beneficial.

Yes, I have a sense that a theme around love and the experience of the presence or absence of that, and the pain relating to that, and how it gets dealt with, is key.

Until next time 🌻
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Elad

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- Kahlil Gibran

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Truthfull » Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:00 pm

Thanks for your support last night Elad.

Denis

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:28 pm

With love, good to see you and meet you. I sense a good movement. Look forward to hear from you when the time is right.
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Elad

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- Kahlil Gibran

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Truthfull » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:35 pm

I was driving yesterday. I felt I was going to have a panic attack, but the thoughts were not in the foreground. I just felt a disorientating shift and coolness in the torso. Thoughts were not allowed to take over and scare me. Felt simple but significant.

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:59 am

Beautiful!
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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Truthfull » Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:20 pm

I did a meditation yesterday from Angelo, looking directly at the makeup/edges of a thought. They fell away and I was left with sensation in the face. Muscles twitching and a contraction. I feel like I’m in my face/head. It relates to the contractions and muscle spasms. Not sure how to proceed. It feels like if the contraction in the face dropped, the small self would also drop with it.

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:09 pm

Great you are open to discover whats real and helpful in multiple ways. Maybe if/when you feel inspired to it sit with the sensations in the face and just be curious what is there.

Be curious what happens when you are with it nonverbally.

Also be curious to engage it in a loving and sincere dialogue: Dear sensations, what do you want to tell, what do you want to teach me, how can I be most loving and helpful and clear with you?

Then be open that learn from whatever happens/is.

Images
Sentences
Emotions
Energies
Resistence
Distraction
Shifts

Whatever comes let it be your teacher, and be a respectful student, who understands that it might take time to understand "to show the sincerity to be worthy" of recieving the teaching that is taught.

Feels like a good direction..
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Elad

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- Kahlil Gibran

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- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Truthfull » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:42 pm

It feels like I’m sick of searching. Desiring something else. I want to just rest in being.

I’m 2days into work and have a pain/tightness in my upper back (behind my heart) it has contracted since I started. The feeling is: I’m not safe, I’m sad, I’m lost. It feels like somethings contracted, while something else is trying to rise in me. I’ve been very grumpy the last 2 days.

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Re: I have a pain in my face with Spirituality, I’m going home.

Postby Elad » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:58 pm

It feels like I’m sick of searching. Desiring something else. I want to just rest in being.

I’m 2days into work and have a pain/tightness in my upper back (behind my heart) it has contracted since I started. The feeling is: I’m not safe, I’m sad, I’m lost. It feels like somethings contracted, while something else is trying to rise in me. I’ve been very grumpy the last 2 days.

Sounds like starting the new job is intense and evoking a fair bit.

Is there anything that is not being accepted in the here and now?

If yes, what? Remember here and now is not a story, all though it includes the thoughts that contain stories.

Is it ever helpful not to accept what is?

Reminder that you hopefully don't need: these questions do not invite mental analysis and positioning, but looking and feeling in the moment. Many times.
With love,
Elad

Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.

- Kahlil Gibran

One gets there by being there.

- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)


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