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Maylson
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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:31 pm

Hi, Amrit!

Good, you found the sensation, you made contact.

Now listen please:

Everything you wrote after describing the body
came from the mind.


And here is something important:

When the attention stays with a physical sensation
for longer than the mind prefers,
something subtle begins to reveal itself.

Not an insight.
Not a conclusion.
Not a state.

Just the undressed immediacy
before the mind steps in to name it.

So I want you to explore this directly:

When you stay with that gut/belly sensation
for a few seconds longer than feels comfortable…
what happens in the body itself?


Don’t imagine.
Don’t remember.
Go there now.

Tell me:

Is there pressure?
Warmth?
Tightness?
Movement?
Expanding?
Contracting?
Shaking?
Holding?
Releasing?

Anything, even the smallest shift.

Do not bring in concepts like
“awareness”, “self”, or “dissolves”.

Please forget all that philosophical or spiritual language for now.
It only feeds a story that has nothing to do with what is happening in your body right now.

We’re not dealing with "ideas", "meaning" or "states".
Only sensation. Pure, immediate, raw.
I want the raw physical report
as it naturally shows up,
without interpretation.

Just the immediate sensation
exactly as it is.

I’m right here with you.
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Wed Nov 26, 2025 5:12 pm

Dear May,

When you stay with that gut/belly sensation
for a few seconds longer than feels comfortable…
what happens in the body itself?

There is pressure, tightness, contracting initially....then just pure, raw sensation...intimate and immediate. And that it's completely comfortable and okay to be here with sensation. I can just stay here without interpretation...it feels neutral and enjoyable. Whereas before, my mind's interpretation or resistance was used as a coping mechanism to avoid or escape sensation.

I look forward to hearing back from you.

Amrit💜

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:56 pm

Dear May,💜

I am right here with you.

And with sensation. Staying in sensation.

Amrit🙏🙋‍♂️

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Wed Nov 26, 2025 11:22 pm

Hey Amrit, it is very good hear from you!

So, Good! You’re making contact with sensation...

But listen carefully:

You’re reporting the front layer of sensation
the layer that becomes comfortable.

That’s not where the identity hides.

The identity hides in the sensation that you don’t want to feel
the one that doesn’t become neutral or enjoyable.

So I’m going to ask you something very precise now:

In the belly/gut area…

can you find the place that you DON’T want to enter?

Not the sensation that becomes calm.
Not the one that feels safe.

The one just behind it.
The one that feels like:


– collapsing,
– falling,
– sinking,
– nausea,
– trembling,
– danger,
– “I can’t handle this”,
– “please no”.

Stay very still and look again.

Right now:

What part of the gut feels wrong, unsafe, too much, too deep, too dark, too empty, too heavy, too unstable?

I don’t want the comfortable sensation.
I want the one you instinctively avoid.

Don’t try to be brave.
Don’t push.

Just notice:

Where exactly does the body subtly pull back?

That exact point
the hesitation, the recoil, the flinch
that is the hiding place of identity.

Tell me what you find there.
Not the mind’s story.
Not the meaning.

Just the raw description of that avoided spot.

I’m right here with you.
We go only at the pace the body allows
but we go honestly.
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Thu Nov 27, 2025 7:21 am

Dear May,

Thank you for your very clear pointing to the sensation in the belly/gut area that I am instintively still avoiding...the identity hides in the sensation that I dont want to enter or feel as you have just said.

Let me report back to you shortly, my dear beloved friend.🙏

Deep gratitude for your ongoing guidance.

Warmly,
Amrit💜

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Mon Dec 01, 2025 4:43 am

Hello May,

Your clear and precise pointers are most helpful for me in this inquiry.

"In the belly/gut area…

can you find the place that you DON’T want to enter?"

YES, I CAN...the sensation I have been avoiding.

"I want the one you instinctively avoid."

YES. I am staying with that sensation.

"Where exactly does the body subtly pull back?"

Here....where there is resistance in the form of thoughts and beliefs about my very own self-preservation and survival, thoughts of existential terror and annihilation. Thoughts such as "I am all alone...so alone, I have nobody, it's too much, dont go here, it's dangerous, life threatening, it will kill me....run, run, run!".

But as I stay with that sensation, these thoughts and beliefs are noticed and recognised as just passing thoughts and beliefs belonging to no one/nobody in particular....and so the identity structure which is actually the resistance around the sensation just drops or falls or collapses.

"Tell me what you find there.
Just the raw description of that avoided spot."

All that remains when the resistance dissolves or collapses is sensation...without a resistor, without an owner or doer or observer. There is no one here, no self here...at the center or core of the sensation...just pure sensation. Without an "I" or "me".

It is seen that there never was an identity hiding there in sensation...just a bundle of resistance, protection and memory made out of thoughts, beliefs and assumptions.

I await your feedback and guidance, dear May.

Amrit🙏💜

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Re: No self

Postby AmritSG » Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:44 pm

My Dear May,

I had quite an intensive episode over the last two days...particularly in my gut area...feelings of intense restlessness that you described so well in your question below....

What part of the gut feels wrong, unsafe, too much, too deep, too dark, too empty, too heavy, too unstable?

I felt a mixture of all of the above sensations except 'too empty'. It felt very energetic and visceral.

I kept bouncing off these sensations repeatedly...I felt myself instinctively avoiding these...I felt my body repeatedly pulling back from these sensations...there was the hesitation, the recoil, the flynch as you described. And such a strong and intrinsic tendency to run away and not feel these sensations. They are coming and going in waves...

I was really struggling to drop down into the body...so much resistance here.

I am being honest with what I am experiencing.

I am staying right here with sensation....

Amrit🙏💜

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Re: No self

Postby Maylson » Sat Dec 06, 2025 5:11 am

Beloved Amrit, my friend,

Sorry for my late reply... the site was down for a while and I didn’t even see the notification of your last message.


Good!!!
Now we stop here.

Listen carefully:

The flinch, the recoil, the pulling back, the urge to run
THIS is the core.
Not the sensation you manage to stay with.
The avoidance itself IS the identity.

So now:

Do NOT try to go deeper.
Do NOT try to stay with the sensation.
Do NOT try to push through the recoil.
Do NOT try to dissolve anything.

Instead:

Just notice the recoil AS the experience.

Exactly as it is.
Without correcting it.

When the body pulls back, let it pull back.
When it avoids, let it avoid.
When it shakes, let it shake.
When it runs, let it run.

Do nothing with it.

Just see:

Is the recoil happening to a “someone”?

Or is it simply happening?

There’s nothing to overcome.
No fire to conquer.
No depth to reach.

Just one simple recognition:

The resistance happens by itself.
The fear happens by itself.
The avoidance happens by itself.
The flinch happens by itself.

And none of it requires a “you.”

Stay with this simple fact:

The avoidance is happening,
but there is no one avoiding.


This is the crack where the whole structure falls apart.

I’m right here with you.
No pressure.
No goal.
Just honesty with exactly what’s happening.
May.

"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti


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