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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 10:12 pm
by Anastacia42
Okay. You're confused because you're thinking. Just stop. LOOK

Your fallback is ButtChair. When you don't know what to do LOOK. Do ButtChair. Or any of the pointers in the DropBox.

I gave you both on June 19th.

"Enlightenment is an accident. Meditation makes you accident prone."

~Sunryu Suzuki

Please watch this:

https://youtu.be/wyNwhK2Ur1c?si=TZwuFEst-7Hsadpu

and read this. It's a little harsh but good information.

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/res ... ar-seeker/

We're looking for a shift in perception. "Gateless Gatecrashers" has good examples.

Loving,

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:01 pm
by Wanderer618
I watched the video and read the article. I also have the book Gateless Gatecrashers and read one of the conversations last night. I will LOOK.

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:53 pm
by Anastacia42
Good!

Stay relaxed.

Loving,

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 11:46 pm
by Wanderer618
I'm continuing to LOOK as much and as often as I can and looking into the ButtChair nonverbal pointing. I have both the Liberation Unleashed books and continue to read and follow pointings in those book. I feel the desire to truly see and relaxing into that space and allowing more looking to occur.

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:46 am
by Anastacia42
Check to be sure that aren't/ haven't seen & then sabotaged yourself with doubt thoughts & expectations of more or different.

Have you watched Pernille's videos on doubt (the 2nd Fetter)?

https://youtu.be/a_8N331jpA4?si=wHE8KmhO7n9uwLPp


Loving,

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:50 am
by Wanderer618
I watched that one before but a while ago I think. I stopped myself from going further into the 2nd fetter lessons because I haven’t seen through the self yet. I don’t think I’ve really seen yet but I’m no expert. I’m looking some more today. ButtChair.


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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 2:57 am
by Anastacia42
Sounds good. Stay relaxed.

Do check out Pernille's doubt series.

Loving,

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:15 am
by Wanderer618
I watched the Fetter 2 lesson 1 video that you sent. I think my underlying belief is that I’m not enough. I do have a lot of doubt but one thing I’m sure of is that I want to see and know truth. I’m flexible in that my starting point doesn’t seem to be toxic. I can roll with the flow well, if plans change or the store is closed I’m ok with that- no problem. I accept what’s happening. I’ve found I’m very intent on seeing there is no self in looking/noticing while just allowing thoughts to arise and continuing to return to the looking and I have this desire and expectation that things will be better once I truly see there is no self.


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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:42 am
by Anastacia42
Hi Jazzmina,

Truth has an expansive, light feel.

Yes. Relax. Look for that.

Remember, there is already no self. All you need to do is notice that. This awareness can creep up or pop up when you least expect it. Practicing ButtChair and other pointers just prepare you for this simple noticing of what's true.

Loving
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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:41 pm
by Wanderer618
I’ve been journaling on this for hours. Very one pointed in looking.


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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:16 am
by Anastacia42
Okay. LOOKING or thinking?

"Thus you should see that
indeed there is no thing here;
this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
Since, Bahiya, there is for you
in the seen, only the seen,
in the heard, only the heard,
in the sensed, only the sensed,
in the cognized, only the cognized,
and you see that there is no thing here,
you will therefore see that
indeed there is no thing there.
As you see that there is no thing there,
you will see that
you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
nor in the world of that,
nor in any place
betwixt the two.
This alone is the end of suffering."

Loving

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:40 am
by Wanderer618
The thoughts just don’t stop. It’s difficult to just hear, just see, just smell, just taste, just feel. In Looking/noticing, thoughts still arise. A way around this commentary of everything doesn’t seem possible.


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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:16 am
by Anastacia42
You are right.

We're not talking about stopping thoughts.

We are talking about ignoring them and especially not believing them.

See the difference?

Loving,

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:57 pm
by Wanderer618
It's a subtle difference but yes there is a difference. Should the focus be on being then? Look/notice simply what is?

The filter of thought just seems so prevalent like there's no way around it.

Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:17 pm
by Anastacia42
The filter of thought just seems so prevalent like there's no way around it.
Let them be there, but LOOK.

Stop arguing for the lies.

Is there a "sell?"


Loving,