Can you find "driver" anywhere? Behind tree, cloud, man, inside?That's a tough question, not sure what you mean by "drive"? Asking what "drives" people? has a different meaning to me then what drives clouds?. But there is nothing I see which drives existence, everything is interdependent. The tree can't survive without the sun, the insects without the tree, etc etc...
What is that ME in reality?I suppose without the ME judging, labeling and resisting each moment, life would also freely flow through a human body.
I like that machine - what a wonderful tool! But it must be a tool always, not a master. If mind ( collection of thoughts, habits, moods etc. ) is not believed that is actual you, then it is just okey, part of the show.My mind is almost like a machine, it can replay a moment or a situation over and over in my head, that there doesn't even seem space to stop and notice it. It's complete auto pilot.
cool, I will try to do that, thank you!To make our interaction successful I would suggest you to post at least once per day. Don't worry about me - I'm all yours here.
No, to me it seems like I'm observing my thoughts almost after they happen. I'm basically thinking about my thoughts not observing. I just realized that, I've read enough to know that's not what's required but it seems to me that's where I am right now.Can you observe a thought at the middle of its way to your awareness?
Can you predict what your next thought will be?
Can your thought think? Or it is just expressing what is?
Can you see a thought is just a separate form?
Well, it seems so....I can decided what to turn my attention to. I can pick up a book, listen to music and the attention will be on something else, although....... it doesn't matter what I do the pure attention is there, always there!Can you control your awareness? Can you predict, when it gonna turn on, or off? Who turn on your attention. Direction of it? Investigate, how awareness/attention work. What drive it? Anyone behind that?
Yes, correct. Look more closely at that process: thought arise - > awareness registering it -> thought judging it, or some kind of blank thought is putted like stone for some time -> mood/feeling -> attention goes somewhere else -> new thought come. Is that right? Look for some time. So all: thought, attention, blank thought ( as I call it ) are just forms that arise as programmed, right? What else is there? Anyone doing that, or all that is just happening by itself?No, to me it seems like I'm observing my thoughts almost after they happen. I'm basically thinking about my thoughts not observing. I just realized that, I've read enough to know that's not what's required but it seems to me that's where I am right now.
But that prediction is one more thought, right? On more programmed thinking pattern as a result of spiritual practice. Can you see that, is it true?Can not predict my exact thought, although I can predict a pattern.
Yes, new external thought was given for awareness, there was not any programmed answer, so thoughts stopped for awhile.The thought can not think, it is the thinking itself...wow...I just typed that and could sense the mind doesn't know what to do with that statement
Are you sure? When you say: "I can pick something" what that point to? Investigate how thoughts, or external stimuli call for awareness to happen, for attention to be directed to some form. When I look at this all, I see all this happen automatically: thought "I want to read" come -> attention to book case happen -> thought "better I would go to bath" arise -> if no stronger thought arise, my legs carry me to some certain place... and so on. What else, behind thought/mood can direct your attention? Investigate every your movement, how that happening? Is there a place where that "you" can be found?I can pick up a book, listen to music
What is that "pure attention"? What is that, if drop all ideas, you read about that before? Your direct experience? Expeerience just NOW, this moment? Look, Truth is very simple, it is what you have NOW. Investigate in relaxed way, but look behind ALL ideas, all thoughts. What is there?it doesn't matter what I do the pure attention is there, always there!
Later in the day after reading these questions, I just happen to be thinking about my childhood, my old friends, when I realized "I' never existed "then" .... I still don't know who this "I" is but for few minutes I didn't have a slightest doubt that it would be impossible for me to exist "then". Also I became very detached from these memories as if they have never happened to me. It's actually difficult to explain the feeling.... regardless I can see that I can only exist now. But the constant feeling which I take to be me, runs my life from the perspective of "then" and "in the future".What is that "pure attention"? What is that, if drop all ideas, you read about that before? Your direct experience? Expeerience just NOW, this moment? Look, Truth is very simple, it is what you have NOW. Investigate in relaxed way, but look behind ALL ideas, all thoughts. What is there?
HA! I wish I knew :)Kris
So, how does it feel to be liberated?
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