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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:12 am

Based on your question, is the awareness concrete, based on observation is concrete or solid I can't touch it or find it.


This was a bit unclear to me; are you saying that it is concrete?
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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Crystal11 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:45 am

Sorry 😐 meant to say it is not concrete. I can’t touch it and find it.

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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:58 am

No worries!

Does it feel like something called "awareness" still exists?
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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Crystal11 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:01 am

Yes, I'm left with, what is seeing, hearing, sensing, perceiving - these seem like an awareness of life, objects, thougthts, smells, noise, ideas. I really don't know anymore

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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:20 am

If you are really precise about "seeing, hearing, sensing, perceiving,"
is there something called "awareness," separate from them, that observes?

I'm not saying there isn't, but rather proposing an opportunity to investigate.

Are the perceiver and the perceived separate, or different?
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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Crystal11 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:15 pm

If you are really precise about "seeing, hearing, sensing, perceiving,"
is there something called "awareness," separate from them, that observes?

I'm not saying there isn't, but rather proposing an opportunity to investigate.

Are the perceiver and the perceived separate, or different?

When I investigate in the moment example sound is heard, or computer is seen. There is not something called awareness separate from this. Then what is experienced is thoughts come with a story of what I know from before or what i learnt from before. All very confusing.

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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:06 pm

It should be confusing when it is something that can't be logically grasped
using thoughts.


If you discard everything you learned before, what is it that's present?
Don't try to push aside thoughts, but just listen, not believing in them.
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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Crystal11 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:50 pm

If you discard everything you learned before, what is it that's present?
Don't try to push aside thoughts, but just listen, not believing in them
I took some time to inquire, `I closed my eyes and a black and reddish colour with ripples was present, breathing was present, sound was present, movement was present, sensations were present, thoughts were present, a spaceiousness was present. All present now.

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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:02 pm

`I closed my eyes and a black and reddish colour with ripples was present, breathing was present, sound was present, movement was present, sensations were present, thoughts were present, a spaceiousness was present. All present now.


What is it that makes them present? Is there any?
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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Crystal11 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:51 pm

What is it that makes it present?

I don't really know, i.e thoughts, sensations, sounds, breathing flow or appear and disappear on their own.

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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:27 pm

Thanks. :)


thoughts, sensations, sounds, breathing flow or appear and disappear on their own.


Take one of these, thought for example, and please see how long it lasts until something
new appears.
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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Crystal11 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:33 pm

Ok, I sound appeared and it lasted for 10-20 secs, then thought appeared it lasted 10sec say, then the movement and sensation of breathing appeared it lasted then it disappeared. It's like they came in to focus and disappeared or faded in to the background.

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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:58 am

What about "you"? Are you one the same nature as thought, sensation and so on?
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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Crystal11 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Hi Kento What do you mean by same nature?

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Re: Hello, I'm looking for a guide, please

Postby Bananafish » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:25 pm

Hi Crystal. :) Sorry if that was difficult to understand.

Does "you" come from nowhere, not lasting for long, dissapear to nowhere?
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