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Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:02 pm

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
The self is me, what I really am, how I interact and am in the World

What are you looking for at LU?
I am looking for liberation and enlightement, that LU will help me break through the veil of Maya, of the illusion I have.
I am looking for a mentor, a guide that will allow me and give me space to understand these.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
I am looking for pointing to free me from my preconceptions.
I expect clear pointers that will offer a Gestalt Shift so that I will be able to see clearly and maybe get a moment of awakening that will free my mind from its attachements and projections

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
Ramana Marhashi
Nissargatta Maharaj
Zen Buddhism

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self?
10

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby StaffordJR » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:35 pm


LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
The self is me, what I really am, how I interact and am in the World

What are you looking for at LU?
I am looking for liberation and enlightement, that LU will help me break through the veil of Maya, of the illusion I have.
I am looking for a mentor, a guide that will allow me and give me space to understand these.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
I am looking for pointing to free me from my preconceptions.
I expect clear pointers that will offer a Gestalt Shift so that I will be able to see clearly and maybe get a moment of awakening that will free my mind from its attachements and projections

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
Ramana Marhashi
Nissargatta Maharaj
Zen Buddhism

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self?
10
Hi my Dear Letting Go my name is Stafford & i would Love to Guide You ?!? What name would you prefer to be called or is Letting Go Your Preference ???
If You so Choose me as Your Guide, I'd like if You can Drop All Expectations Ideas & Perception of This !!!
This isn't Anything Concepts or Explanations can Point Too, IT'S Only Seen in Direct Experience !?!
Ok so if You ready We can start right away !?! Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter Yours Truly Stafford




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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 pm

Dear Stafford,
Hi my Dear Letting Go my name is Stafford & i would Love to Guide You ?!? What name would you prefer to be called or is Letting Go Your Preference ???
Thank you for being my guide, I'm Mike, nice to meet you :)
If You so Choose me as Your Guide, I'd like if You can Drop All Expectations Ideas & Perception of This !!!
This isn't Anything Concepts or Explanations can Point Too, IT'S Only Seen in Direct Experience !?!
Ok I'll try to drop my ideas of THIS.
Not sure what you call "perception" though... And not sure what you call THIS/Anything either ahah
Ok so if You ready We can start right away !?!
Let's go :)

Mike

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby StaffordJR » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:45 am

(""""Ok I'll try to drop my ideas of THIS.
Not sure what you call "perception" though... And not sure what you call THIS/Anything either ahah"""")

Hi Mike Very good to meet You & Thank You for Allowing me as Your Guide !!!
Apologies I couldn't respond earlier !?! Life Moves me & have no Real Time of my own

OK Right Too THIS, IT, Now, The Moment, Enlightenment, Liberation or Any name Concept or Perception
(How We Look at things)
There's No Way Too get Here
(Already HERE ) Lol
And No Word That We can use that can Describe What We're Doing Here,
Like What's mentioned in the statements Below, It's Not Like That, Not Intellectual or Conceptual !!! /¿¿¿
If this doesn't make sense That's OK just try the Exercises Below ?!?

(What are you looking for at LU? )
("""""I am looking for liberation and enlightement, that LU will help me break through the veil of Maya, of the illusion I have.
I am looking for a mentor, a guide that will allow me and give me space to understand these. """"')

Ok so let's try this Exercise & Look into Thinking Breathing Seeing Touching & Hearing Extra !!! /???

So When Looking into The Senses it's not What You're Thinking or How You're Breathing, Not what You're Seeing Hearing or Touching But When is it You're Doing Any of Them & How ??? /!!! Please take Your Time & if This isn't Clear, that's ok We'll Clarify Everything as We Go !!!
Thanks so much & don't Hesitate too let me Know if Things aren't Clear !?!
Always Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter

Yours Truly Stafford







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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:17 pm

Dear Stafford,

OK Right Too THIS, IT, Now, The Moment, Enlightenment, Liberation or Any name Concept or Perception
(How We Look at things)
There's No Way Too get Here
(Already HERE ) Lol
And No Word That We can use that can Describe What We're Doing Here,
Like What's mentioned in the statements Below, It's Not Like That, Not Intellectual or Conceptual !!! /¿¿¿
OK sounds nice I like that a lot :)

Ok so let's try this Exercise & Look into Thinking Breathing Seeing Touching & Hearing Extra !!! /???
OK sure let me try
So When Looking into The Senses it's not What You're Thinking or How You're Breathing, Not what You're Seeing Hearing or Touching But When is it You're Doing Any of Them & How ??? /!!! Please take Your Time & if This isn't Clear, that's ok We'll Clarify Everything as We Go !!!
Ok sure let me try
When Looking into The Senses it's
not What You're Thinking or How You're Breathing
Not what You're Seeing Hearing or Touching
But When/How is it You're Doing Any of Them ?
ok that looks like a little riddle.
Let me look.

So when looking into the Senses (seeing/hearing/touching).
It's directly what I see/hear yes. A thought may come and says it's about the seeing, but I can also experience the seeing "in silence", with no thought at all.

So how am I doing any of these seeing/hearing/touching ?
Well I don't need thinking for that, these happen independently.

When am I doing these seeing/hearing/touching/breathing ? Well, right NOW. When else lol ?

Thank you !

Mike

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby StaffordJR » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:56 pm


Dear Stafford,

OK Right Too THIS, IT, Now, The Moment, Enlightenment, Liberation or Any name Concept or Perception
(How We Look at things)
There's No Way Too get Here
(Already HERE ) Lol
And No Word That We can use that can Describe What We're Doing Here,
Like What's mentioned in the statements Below, It's Not Like That, Not Intellectual or Conceptual !!! /¿¿¿
OK sounds nice I like that a lot :)

Ok so let's try this Exercise & Look into Thinking Breathing Seeing Touching & Hearing Extra !!! /???
OK sure let me try
So When Looking into The Senses it's not What You're Thinking or How You're Breathing, Not what You're Seeing Hearing or Touching But When is it You're Doing Any of Them & How ??? /!!! Please take Your Time & if This isn't Clear, that's ok We'll Clarify Everything as We Go !!!
Ok sure let me try
When Looking into The Senses it's
not What You're Thinking or How You're Breathing
Not what You're Seeing Hearing or Touching
But When/How is it You're Doing Any of Them ?
ok that looks like a little riddle.
Let me look.

So when looking into the Senses (seeing/hearing/touching).
It's directly what I see/hear yes. A thought may come and says it's about the seeing, but I can also experience the seeing "in silence", with no thought at all.

So how am I doing any of these seeing/hearing/touching ?
Well I don't need thinking for that, these happen independently.

When am I doing these seeing/hearing/touching/breathing ? Well, right NOW. When else lol ?

Thank you !

Mike
Yes Mike Excellent my Dear Friend !!!

You're getting the feel of This !?!


Now take a Look at The Word i ?!?
Dose i Actually refer too anything & When is i Actually Doing Anything ?!?
There was Noticing a few Times in Your Post & I'd like You too Look at again ;

( """"Well I don't need thinking for That, These happen independently """")

(""""When am I doing any of these seeing /hearing /touching /breathing? Well, Right Now. When Else Lol"""")

Ok IS i doing anything right Now ?!? Let's take a Deep Look !?!

On This, Dose i Do The Thinking or is it just a thought & When are Senses Separate from the Thought i ???
Then Notice What Doesn't Happen Independently, or is Everything Happening Separate ???

Ok Stopping Here & Hope this is Clear & if not no problems it's All Happening as IT IS !!!
Sending much Love & You're Doing Great much Appreciation ;~} =_= {~;

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:28 pm

Dear Stafford
You're getting the feel of This !?!
Little by little hopefully getting there, where I'm already :)
Now take a Look at The Word i ?!?
Does 'i' Actually refer to anything & When is 'i' Actually Doing Anything ?!?
Does 'i' Actually refer to anything ?
"I" is a concept that refers to this whole body-mind, "I" is noticed as a thought arising in this mind, as this mind.
When is 'i' Actually Doing Anything ?!?
Good question ahah ;).
So the label "I" is a label, a thought, so the only thing it does is appear to awareness (and is noticed) and disappear in awareness (and is nowhere to be seen).
Now what is "doing" is this hands, this body. These guys are "doing" things, these fingers are typing on the keyboard for example. And because I consider these fingers mine, it appears that "I" am typing these letter. In direct experience, these fingers are typing these words on the screen, a priori directed by some intention (thoughts) to reply to your questions. I could say that this intention is what give these fingers "energy" to "do" on behalf of my whole body-mind. So I could say that I am that body-mind, nothing else or more than that the total sum of this body-mind aka body (here fingers) + mind (intention/energy/thoughts), the total sum of this bodymind is labelled "I", but this "I" is not something else, it's a label in the mind.

There was Noticing a few Times in Your Post & I'd like You too Look at again ;
( """"Well I don't need thinking for That, These happen independently """")
(""""When am I doing any of these seeing /hearing /touching /breathing? Well, Right Now. When Else Lol"""")
Ok IS i doing anything right Now ?!? Let's take a Deep Look !?!
So as said above the "I" as thought, as label is only an appearance as a label/thought to the mind, so it doesn't "do" anything except as an appearing as a label/thought. However lots of things are "happening" in the mind (thinking) as well as in the body (fingers, arms, wrists) right now. This is happening for sure. Now I say that the label "I" refers to this body-mind, but this "I" is a only reference thought in mind, "part" of this complete appearance now.
On This, Does 'i' Do The Thinking or is it just a thought & When are Senses Separate from the Thought i ???
The "I" doesn't do the thinking, the "I" is part of the thinking.
When are senses separate from the thought "I" ? All the time. They are almost never the same as the thought I. It can be that the thought "I" and the senses are all arising together but each belong to its own reality-sphere, they are in that sense separate. Where I would say that they are not separate is that when the thought "I" and for example seeing and hearing are all taking place as part of an unseparate happening right now, how can we really they that these are "separate"? Aka are these really separate happening in their own sphere or are these ONE happening that then get divided into seeing/hearing/thinking ??
Then Notice What Doesn't Happen Independently, or is Everything Happening Separate ???
Not sure I understand what you mean by "Notice What Doesn't Happen Independently". So let me think that further. What does NOT happen independently ? So is there anything that happens independently ?? Independently of what ? Of all the rest ? NO. That is not possible. Nothing is independent, nothing exists from its own side :). Everything (not even every "things") is an appearance through causes and conditions that make them appear (like a rainbow).

"is Everything Happening Separate ?"
So in a way we could say that each sense (seeing/hearing/touching/tasting/smelling/thinking) is separately in its own sphere.
In another way we cannot really say that, because what tells us that any of these sphere is separate. What happens is THIS, a whole seamless whole happening NOW that can (apparently) be divided (by thoughts) in different categories.

Thank you,

Mike

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby StaffordJR » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:55 am


Dear Stafford
You're getting the feel of This !?!
Little by little hopefully getting there, where I'm already :)
Now take a Look at The Word i ?!?
Does 'i' Actually refer to anything & When is 'i' Actually Doing Anything ?!?
Does 'i' Actually refer to anything ?
"I" is a concept that refers to this whole body-mind, "I" is noticed as a thought arising in this mind, as this mind.
When is 'i' Actually Doing Anything ?!?
Good question ahah ;).
So the label "I" is a label, a thought, so the only thing it does is appear to awareness (and is noticed) and disappear in awareness (and is nowhere to be seen).
Now what is "doing" is this hands, this body. These guys are "doing" things, these fingers are typing on the keyboard for example. And because I consider these fingers mine, it appears that "I" am typing these letter. In direct experience, these fingers are typing these words on the screen, a priori directed by some intention (thoughts) to reply to your questions. I could say that this intention is what give these fingers "energy" to "do" on behalf of my whole body-mind. So I could say that I am that body-mind, nothing else or more than that the total sum of this body-mind aka body (here fingers) + mind (intention/energy/thoughts), the total sum of this bodymind is labelled "I", but this "I" is not something else, it's a label in the mind.

There was Noticing a few Times in Your Post & I'd like You too Look at again ;
( """"Well I don't need thinking for That, These happen independently """")
(""""When am I doing any of these seeing /hearing /touching /breathing? Well, Right Now. When Else Lol"""")
Ok IS i doing anything right Now ?!? Let's take a Deep Look !?!
So as said above the "I" as thought, as label is only an appearance as a label/thought to the mind, so it doesn't "do" anything except as an appearing as a label/thought. However lots of things are "happening" in the mind (thinking) as well as in the body (fingers, arms, wrists) right now. This is happening for sure. Now I say that the label "I" refers to this body-mind, but this "I" is a only reference thought in mind, "part" of this complete appearance now.
On This, Does 'i' Do The Thinking or is it just a thought & When are Senses Separate from the Thought i ???
The "I" doesn't do the thinking, the "I" is part of the thinking.
When are senses separate from the thought "I" ? All the time. They are almost never the same as the thought I. It can be that the thought "I" and the senses are all arising together but each belong to its own reality-sphere, they are in that sense separate. Where I would say that they are not separate is that when the thought "I" and for example seeing and hearing are all taking place as part of an unseparate happening right now, how can we really they that these are "separate"? Aka are these really separate happening in their own sphere or are these ONE happening that then get divided into seeing/hearing/thinking ??
Then Notice What Doesn't Happen Independently, or is Everything Happening Separate ???
Not sure I understand what you mean by "Notice What Doesn't Happen Independently". So let me think that further. What does NOT happen independently ? So is there anything that happens independently ?? Independently of what ? Of all the rest ? NO. That is not possible. Nothing is independent, nothing exists from its own side :). Everything (not even every "things") is an appearance through causes and conditions that make them appear (like a rainbow).

"is Everything Happening Separate ?"
So in a way we could say that each sense (seeing/hearing/touching/tasting/smelling/thinking) is separately in its own sphere.
In another way we cannot really say that, because what tells us that any of these sphere is separate. What happens is THIS, a whole seamless whole happening NOW that can (apparently) be divided (by thoughts) in different categories.

Thank you,

Mike
Ok my Dear Mike You're Welcome my Pleasure Love This ImageImageImage
Ok Let's Back this up & Start with Thinking !?!

Are You Controlling Thoughts in Direct Experience & do You know the difference between thinking & direct experience ???

Stopping Here to See Where We're at !?!
talk soon & Sending much Love & Apologies little Tired Tonight Yours Truly StaffordImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:51 am

Ok Let's Back this up & Start with Thinking !?!
Are You Controlling Thoughts in Direct Experience & do You know the difference between thinking & direct experience ???
Stopping Here to See Where We're at !?!
Are You Controlling Thoughts in Direct Experience

I don't know if I am controlling my thoughts.
Thoughts appear.
I can force myself to repeat something, for example a mantra.
So in that sense, there is some kind of "control".
But then if I look further, where does this intention of repeating a mantra comes from ?
It comes from, for example reading the instruction of a master.
And where does the instruction of that master come from ? From his master ! And then, all the way back to ??? To a prehistorical individual who realized that repeating a sound inside one's head would create pleasurable state.
Like another one noticed that pushing a little pebble or stone on the ground was extremely pleasurable, and this became later "football" !!
So in that sense, WHO is controlling these thoughts ? The whole universe !!!!!!! And the whole universe isn't even controlling them, it is ALLOWING them to pop up, through infinite kalpas, like it IS allowing the RAIN now to fall !!!!!


do You know the difference between thinking & direct experience

Do I know that difference ?

Well in thinking I can conjure, right NOW, an entire world of words, the words are CREATING a DREAM, a universe of fantasy.

I can look at a "thought itself" in Direct Experience though, and SEE the MATRIX that this thought IS.
That would be a direct experience of thought AS thought. As opposed to being caught up in the DREAM/ILLUSION/APPEARANCE generated by that same thougths.
So I can LOOK at the origination of that dream world and LOOK at its source aka the thoughts/image that is fabricated.

Now if I compare that "generated-by-thought" World with for example my seeing of that screen NOW, my touching of thay keyboard NOW.
Well it feels different, not the same "taste". One is right here, right NOW and feels very alive (that seeing, the experience of color right NOW, that touching, the sensation of the chair on my backside), and the other feels like it's NOT really there, it's more a fantasy world.

talk soon & Sending much Love & Apologies little Tired Tonight Yours Truly Stafford
I am so grateful you are spending time with me to help me look, thank you :)

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby StaffordJR » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:43 pm


Ok Let's Back this up & Start with Thinking !?!
Are You Controlling Thoughts in Direct Experience & do You know the difference between thinking & direct experience ???
Stopping Here to See Where We're at !?!
Are You Controlling Thoughts in Direct Experience

I don't know if I am controlling my thoughts.
Thoughts appear.
I can force myself to repeat something, for example a mantra.
So in that sense, there is some kind of "control".
But then if I look further, where does this intention of repeating a mantra comes from ?
It comes from, for example reading the instruction of a master.
And where does the instruction of that master come from ? From his master ! And then, all the way back to ??? To a prehistorical individual who realized that repeating a sound inside one's head would create pleasurable state.
Like another one noticed that pushing a little pebble or stone on the ground was extremely pleasurable, and this became later "football" !!
So in that sense, WHO is controlling these thoughts ? The whole universe !!!!!!! And the whole universe isn't even controlling them, it is ALLOWING them to pop up, through infinite kalpas, like it IS allowing the RAIN now to fall !!!!!


do You know the difference between thinking & direct experience

Do I know that difference ?

Well in thinking I can conjure, right NOW, an entire world of words, the words are CREATING a DREAM, a universe of fantasy.

I can look at a "thought itself" in Direct Experience though, and SEE the MATRIX that this thought IS.
That would be a direct experience of thought AS thought. As opposed to being caught up in the DREAM/ILLUSION/APPEARANCE generated by that same thougths.
So I can LOOK at the origination of that dream world and LOOK at its source aka the thoughts/image that is fabricated.

Now if I compare that "generated-by-thought" World with for example my seeing of that screen NOW, my touching of thay keyboard NOW.
Well it feels different, not the same "taste". One is right here, right NOW and feels very alive (that seeing, the experience of color right NOW, that touching, the sensation of the chair on my backside), and the other feels like it's NOT really there, it's more a fantasy world.

talk soon & Sending much Love & Apologies little Tired Tonight Yours Truly Stafford
I am so grateful you are spending time with me to help me look, thank you :)
My Pleasures & Really No Time & No One Home Helping, just This Happening with No Reason or Rhyme !?! Can't Really Explain Why or How or Who Lol Just This Happening Incredible Right Lol & You're Welcome

Yes Yes Yes my Dear Mike Wonderful Work, !!!

No You Controlling Thinking & Understanding Directly Experience, Let's not beat around the bush & get Right Too The Point !!! /¿¿¿

What Does Mike have to Do Too Be ???

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:35 am

Dear Stafford,

Thank "you" so much for all "your" guidance, lots of gratitude comes up here !
Let's not beat around the bush & get Right Too The Point !!! /¿¿¿
What Does Mike have to Do Too Be ???
So when looking in direct experience, I'm not sure what "Mike" is exactly, what is "Mike"''s nature exactly.
What I can tell you is that to "be", Mike seems to need some food, whether of mental or physical nature to "be".
"Mike" or "I" is a thought that arises from "time" to "time". So he/it doesn't need to "do" anything to "be".

It's rather that this phenomenological experience IS-ing first of all. This experience doesn't need any doing to be. It is before doing. The heartbeats are before any doing, the growth of my hair is before any "doing". So a lot of it is "unconscious" doing, whereby no "controlled" "directed" doing happens.

And as far as the "controlled" "directed" doings are, we established last time that these "intentions" where arising ("popping up") like a heartbeat is noticed (except it would be a thought rather than a heartbeat that is noticed), and are in reality "desires"/"fears" that are controlled by something that can sometimes go back to the dawn of humanity and even before that.

Action may be following from these "desires"/"wants" but no one is really "doing" them. They are happening yes, but almost in a mechanical way (even though I don't like that word "mechanical") so I'd say they happen in an "organic" way. Trying to understand the causes and conditions that led to this happening feels like a very difficult task for "logical thought" because of its sheer complexity.

So reducing this immense complexity that spreads both in "time" and accross the entire society and its economical and political history and happening NOW, and claiming/saying that they are the action of an "I", of "Mike", seems to be an extreme arrogant simplication...

To "be" Mike, is to "be" at the midst (or rather at the periphery) of a vast network of a very intricate net. Does any directed/led doing needs to be done for Mike to "be". Yes, but in a very vast, interdependent, impersonal way that have nothing to do with this "local" be-ing called "Mike".

Thank you my friend.

With gratitude,

Mike

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby StaffordJR » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am


Dear Stafford,

Thank "you" so much for all "your" guidance, lots of gratitude comes up here !
Let's not beat around the bush & get Right Too The Point !!! /¿¿¿
What Does Mike have to Do Too Be ???
So when looking in direct experience, I'm not sure what "Mike" is exactly, what is "Mike"''s nature exactly.
What I can tell you is that to "be", Mike seems to need some food, whether of mental or physical nature to "be".
"Mike" or "I" is a thought that arises from "time" to "time". So he/it doesn't need to "do" anything to "be".

It's rather that this phenomenological experience IS-ing first of all. This experience doesn't need any doing to be. It is before doing. The heartbeats are before any doing, the growth of my hair is before any "doing". So a lot of it is "unconscious" doing, whereby no "controlled" "directed" doing happens.

And as far as the "controlled" "directed" doings are, we established last time that these "intentions" where arising ("popping up") like a heartbeat is noticed (except it would be a thought rather than a heartbeat that is noticed), and are in reality "desires"/"fears" that are controlled by something that can sometimes go back to the dawn of humanity and even before that.

Action may be following from these "desires"/"wants" but no one is really "doing" them. They are happening yes, but almost in a mechanical way (even though I don't like that word "mechanical") so I'd say they happen in an "organic" way. Trying to understand the causes and conditions that led to this happening feels like a very difficult task for "logical thought" because of its sheer complexity.

So reducing this immense complexity that spreads both in "time" and accross the entire society and its economical and political history and happening NOW, and claiming/saying that they are the action of an "I", of "Mike", seems to be an extreme arrogant simplication...

To "be" Mike, is to "be" at the midst (or rather at the periphery) of a vast network of a very intricate net. Does any directed/led doing needs to be done for Mike to "be". Yes, but in a very vast, interdependent, impersonal way that have nothing to do with this "local" be-ing called "Mike".

Thank you my friend.

With gratitude,

Mike
Hi my Dear Mike,

Thank You so Very much for Your Kindness & Patience !!!

Yes & very Intellectual !!! So lets take a Look if All Words are Conceptual & in Constant Change & Life Doesn't have a Concept or Theory or a Way ¡¡¡/???
Then What Really are You Doing Too Be & make it Stupid Simple Lol Besides Can't get IT Right or Wrong When Words can't Explain THIS !!! /???
For instance What did a You do to Be Born, Keep it Simple ?!?
What can Be done about Death ! ¿ !
What are We Before Birth & After Death ¿¿¿/
! ¡ !
Ok Stopping Here & Hope This is Clear & Don't Worry if it isn't, This Doesn't make Sense Verbally but can Be Seen in Direct Experience what's Actually Happening & Seeing Clear Meaning is Seeing Clear Like Glass Nothing There Lol Talk soon & Always Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:12 am

Dear Stafford,
Yes & very Intellectual !!! So lets take a Look if All Words are Conceptual & in Constant Change & Life Doesn't have a Concept or Theory or a Way ¡¡¡/???
ahah the mind likes its candies :)
Then What Really are You Doing Too Be
(& make it Stupid Simple Lol Besides Can't get IT Right or Wrong When Words can't Explain THIS !!! /???)
I don't need to do anything to be lol
For instance What did a You do to Be Born, Keep it Simple ?!?
"I" didn't do anything to "be born" lol
What can Be done about Death ! ¿ !
ahahahahahahahah :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
NO-THING. Not a thing loooooooooooooool
What are We Before Birth & After Death ¿¿¿/
The "I" isn't here, the body isn't here either lol. But the awareness of this "I-to-be" probably is, as it is now looking at that clown's movements and smily face and at these thoughts and sights :-)
Meaning is Seeing Clear Like Glass Nothing There Lol Talk soon & Always Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter
& Laugter yes, a LOT of it :) :) :D :op

Thank you as always,

Mike

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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby StaffordJR » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:16 am


Dear Stafford,
Yes & very Intellectual !!! So lets take a Look if All Words are Conceptual & in Constant Change & Life Doesn't have a Concept or Theory or a Way ¡¡¡/???
ahah the mind likes its candies :)
Then What Really are You Doing Too Be
(& make it Stupid Simple Lol Besides Can't get IT Right or Wrong When Words can't Explain THIS !!! /???)
I don't need to do anything to be lol
For instance What did a You do to Be Born, Keep it Simple ?!?
"I" didn't do anything to "be born" lol
What can Be done about Death ! ¿ !
ahahahahahahahah :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
NO-THING. Not a thing loooooooooooooool
What are We Before Birth & After Death ¿¿¿/
The "I" isn't here, the body isn't here either lol. But the awareness of this "I-to-be" probably is, as it is now looking at that clown's movements and smily face and at these thoughts and sights :-)
Meaning is Seeing Clear Like Glass Nothing There Lol Talk soon & Always Sending Peace Love Life & Laughter
& Laugter yes, a LOT of it :) :) :D :op

Thank you as always,

Mike
Beautiful my Dear Friend,

Now are You ready for the last Questions or is there Anyone Home that's Unclear ?!? Please if There is any Doubts let's uncover them for what they are & Apologies for The Late response !!!
Sending much Love Laughter Life & Peace Yours Truly Stafford ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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LettingGoNow
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Re: Letting Go Now or Never

Postby LettingGoNow » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:30 am

Dear Stafford,
Now are You ready for the last Questions or is there Anyone Home that's Unclear ?!?
Feels quite stable and warm here, so ready for the questions !

Thank you so much for your gift of presence.

Mike


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