“thoughts are telling me” – Are thoughts talking to someone?I don't know that there must be. I only know that there are experiences - physical sensations and thoughts. Some of the thoughts are telling me that there must be something.
Where is this me that thoughts are talking to?
Is there a me sitting somewhere, probably in the head or in the chest, listening to what thoughts are telling him?
Let’s look at what happens here.Firstly, it seems to be behind my eyes somewhere, then in some sensation in the body, then in the body, then in my heart, then it is a point a centre of awareness. These are all ideas, thoughts. I cannot find a thing that experiences outside of the experience itself.
What we are doing is to investigate what it is exactly that is being mistake as a me.
So there is something actual, real here, which is being mistaken as a me.
Just notice, all those areas of the body you mentioned… when it seems that there is a me behind the eyes, then that ‘innocent’, plain sensation of the eyes are being mistaken as an I. And how does this mistake happen? It happens by thoughts making the claim, that ‘it seems like, or feels like that there is a me being my eyes’. And since we never investigate the validity of thoughts, but we accept them at face value… BUMMM! the appearance of an I emerges. Can you see this?
The sensation is real, it's there. But it's NOT the feeling of an I. That's just a wrong label.
Can you notice that this is just another imagination about a supposed experiencer?It's as big as the experience that's happening, or an invisible point in the centre of the experience. It can't be separated from the experience. Even "as big as the experience and an invisible point" are thoughts about how big it is they are not an experience of it.
What if there is no experiencer whatsoever?
Notice, that language always suggest that there must be a subject and an object. Language even personifies rain :)
It is raining – yes raining is happening, but is there an IT making the rain happen? Is there a rainer?
The wind is blowing – Is there an actual entity called wind, which is doing the blowing?
Experience happen, yes… - but is there someone experiencing it? Or there is only experience happening?
How do you know that there is anyone feeling happy, sad or cold? Do you see that this question is based on the assumption that there must be someone feeling?I cannot find any shape or colour for an experiencer, only the shape(s) and colour(s) of the experience, and the felt experience or mood of the experience. What is it that feels happy, sad, cold?
Focus on the sensations of the hands.
Sensations are there… but is there a feeler? Where?
Are the sensations are received by someone? Is there a receiver?
Or there is only the sensation… but without happening to anyone or anything… just a free-floating experience?
When there is an emotion, is there anything feeling it?
It seems like = I think that…It is not perceived directly. It's inferred from thoughts and emotions. The emotions seem closer to "me" than the thoughts, more personal.
Yes, it can SEEM that way… but, there is an important thing to mention here… we often think or say the phrase “it feels like” or “it seems like”. These phrases usually point to a thought not to a sensation. A sensation would be when you pinch yourself and then you really bodily, physically feel something.
So the "It feels like the I is here." appears as content of a thought.
"I feel like" = "I think that…"
What we are investigating here that what is it exactly that we take for an I. Since intellectually we already know that there is no real I outside of the realm of thoughts, and yet it can SEEM like as if there were an I. So there must be something or several different things that we mistake for an I.
We are looking at the SEEMS TO BE and have a look if that's true, we do look how the story is created and maintained and why it is so credible.
How do you know that emotions are personal? What is the experience of ‘something being personal’?The closest I come to it is emotions which are experienced and which feel personal to a me, or I think feel personal to me.
What I am asking here is to check what the word ‘personal’ points to experience. What do you find?
Can actually something to be FELT to be personal... or it's just a thought only with the word 'feels' in it?