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Anu18
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Re: Need help in seeing clearly

Postby Anu18 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:05 am

Hello Vivien,
Are you saying that the thought “Am I going to raise the left or the right hand” was thought by a person, a ME, Anu?
I know that there is no “I” doing the thinking but it feels like that.
How could there be a doing without a doer?
Is there someone doing thinking?
What? Anu is the one doing thinking?
A person is doing thinning? A me? A self? An entity?
It is very clear that whenever there’s a flow of random thoughts coming and going they are just arising and subsiding on their own and there’s no thinker but in any specific situations in daily life for example thinking about what to cook or choosing which hand to raise there is a mental dialogue that starts and something specifically focuses on this inner dialogue “ which hand should I raise, left or right” or “what should I cook pasta or pizza” so what is it that is doing the thinking and deciding? Therefore it feels like my mind or my focus of attention is doing the thinking and I know that there’s no mind to be found but I don’t know why it still feels like that? As you mentioned that it’s my assumption but this attention feels very real, always present.
We say “It’s raining” – where is this ‘it’? Water is simply falling.
Or, “The wind is blowing” – can you find ‘the wind’ or is it just air moving?
I understand this very clearly.

Thanks you so much for all your help Vivien. I have to resume going to work starting tomorrow and it seems like it will be very hectic for few weeks. Would it be ok if I take a break for few weeks and write back to you once I get settled into the routine and ready to start the enquiry again?

Please give me some pointers to look into the confusion that I mentioned above :)

Lots of love & blessings to you 🤗

Anu

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Re: Need help in seeing clearly

Postby Vivien » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:28 am

Hi Anu,
I have to resume going to work starting tomorrow and it seems like it will be very hectic for few weeks. Would it be ok if I take a break for few weeks and write back to you once I get settled into the routine and ready to start the enquiry again?
That’s all right. Come back when you feel ready.

In the meanwhile, I suggest to read the whole thread from the beginning, but only read my comments, not yours (that just could confuse you). And as you read my comments, use the questions as pointers, and look with each and every one of them.

Let me know what happens if you redo them.

Vivien
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Website: https://www.viviennovak.com/

Blog: https://fadingveiling.com/

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Re: Need help in seeing clearly

Postby Anu18 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:52 pm

Hello Vivien,

Thank you! I’ll go through your pointers again :)

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Re: Need help in seeing clearly

Postby Vivien » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:17 am

All right :)
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