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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby ShefAji » Sun May 24, 2020 6:38 am

Please look at that "feeling" that you are here as a being separate
from everything else.

Bananafish
Also whenever I read this sentence My mind goes blank and I feel good/restful, and it happened everytime I read this today and that is why the late response .. ok choosing a word here is hard but hope you got my point😊

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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby ShefAji » Sun May 24, 2020 6:39 am

“Please look at that "feeling" that you are here as a being separate
from everything else.”

Also whenever I read this sentence My mind goes blank and I feel good/restful, and it happened everytime I read this today and that is why the late response .. ok choosing a word here is hard but hope you got my point😊

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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby Bananafish » Sun May 24, 2020 7:08 am

Hi. :)


I do get a lot of thoughts and most start with “I” and “me” thought Sadly.


Why is it sad that the thought about "I" appears?


not sure does that mean “I” have no control/influence


I won't give you a quick answer; you will have to see this yourself.
We can go into this later, but handling lots of questions at once leads to distracted
inquiry, which I wouldn't recommend.


Also whenever I read this sentence My mind goes blank and I feel good/restful


Please be careful when you find yourself making something in my reply
a kind of tranquilizer, or some hallucinogen. That has nothing to do with this inquiry;
it's not about feeling good nor spacing out. My words are nothing but words, and
they are no special. Giving them any value may well get in the way.



Warm wishes,

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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby ShefAji » Sun May 24, 2020 6:26 pm

Hi. :)


I do get a lot of thoughts and most start with “I” and “me” thought Sadly.


Why is it sad that the thought about "I" appears?


not sure does that mean “I” have no control/influence
Sad because, What I noticed is that when this petty “I” appears that is when all issues start coming up, else Somehow all goes on.. I might be wrong,but as and when I start saying it is “my”problem that is when it becomes an issue. Some years back everything was happening as it is BUT nothing was sticking to me.. all was passing by, it happened for 4 days only But was a relief (I am not looking for relief though). May be “I” feeling is not the problem, but I need to know if this “I” is a thought, that means I really is temporary as it does not stay all the time.

Also who am “I” question bothers me from childhood as everything I say is “me” is temporary or given by someone (like my name)

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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby Bananafish » Mon May 25, 2020 1:07 am

Hi. :)


What I noticed is that when this petty “I” appears that is when all issues start coming up,


If you are trying to make the thought "I" not to appear, that is hopeless.
The issue here is that you are making this "I" a problem. It's important not to
assume that it may not be a problem, but honestly see if this is a problem or not.

What makes it a problem?


Also who am “I” question bothers me from childhood as everything I say is “me” is temporary or given by someone (like my name)


Yes. And what in this bothers you?
Could you elaborate?



Warm wishes,

Bananafish
I'm available for Skype or Zoom face to face conversation. Drop me a line and we could arrange
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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby ShefAji » Mon May 25, 2020 7:27 am

Hi,

I do not think the issue is that “I” thought arises, the issue is when I say it is “my” problem, if it was just a problem it was manageable, as soon it is mine it is little more tensed.

The reason I say is that whenever I have worked or handled things without saying “its mine”, I am more relaxed and better at handling.. this might not be related to the query so we can drop it ..

I really wishes to go straight to knowing the truth of who am I as I do not know the answer of the same yet and That is what bothers me or make me extremely curious.. if I do not know what am I, how am I suppose to know anything- it is a strange urge of wanting to know, hard to explain

Hope you are direct me/point me to the truth🙏🏻

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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby Bananafish » Mon May 25, 2020 8:30 am

Hi. :)


the issue is when I say it is “my” problem


Isn't this still an issue regarding the thought of possession by you?


I really wishes to go straight to knowing the truth of who am


Are the words on the screen seen?
That is the truth of who you are. Very straight talk.


Somehow people wish the opposite, to complicate it; isn't it the case about you?
Are you desperate for truth? I'm not saying that you should be, btw.


If someone really wishes to go straight, s/he will discard all the complications,
beliefs, teachings, something people (including me) said, and just go straight about the fact that is
here and now, see, and end the search right away.


The difficulty lies in that people don't really wish it so much,
sometimes wanting something from truth, not truth itself. Sense all the illusions and
indirectness.


Please have a sincere look at what is here and now, and tell what you notice.


Warm wishes,

Bananafish
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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby Bananafish » Mon May 25, 2020 8:38 am

Sorry, typo ...

Sense all the illusions and indirectness. → Hence all the illusions and indirectness.
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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby ShefAji » Tue May 26, 2020 7:34 am

Yes it is still a problem as my possession tendency is very strong.

I am desperate for the truth, and possibly a realization which never ever goes away.

Yes my search combines strange urge to know and I also feel that it will set something free (not sure what).

The reality is here and now, I exist here and now, I am answering you here and now...

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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby Bananafish » Tue May 26, 2020 8:40 am

I am desperate for the truth, and possibly a realization which never ever goes away.


Right. You are imagining that there is some concrete and permanent thing called "realization."
This is not about getting it. So first, I advise that you give up that wish to get it for good, as
that is no truth at all. You are chasing after something you think is truth, not truth itself.


The reality is here and now, I exist here and now, I am answering you here and now...


And where is that "I" in the sentence "I exist here and now?"
Could you point to it?
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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby ShefAji » Sat May 30, 2020 5:36 am

Sorry for the late response.

Hmm that make sense.. it is easy to get deviated...

Here now it is this feeling and I am here .. it is a feeling or like knowing.. how do I point out?

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Re: Guide me to No-"I"

Postby Bananafish » Sat May 30, 2020 6:43 am

Could you point to where that "feeling" is, with your index finger?
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