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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:47 pm

Yes I do feel separate, experimentally

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Re: Liberation

Postby Bananafish » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:27 pm

Ok, please describe what is separate from what.
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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:51 am

Hiya

My mind & body seems to be separate as it looks at everything from a subjective place out into objectivity. It appears to
Me that I’m one thing & everything outside of me is separate

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Re: Liberation

Postby Bananafish » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:20 pm

Where is that subjective place? Is it an actual place?
Where is it?
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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:54 pm

I received a message at 13.20 but no message was attached

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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:55 pm

Ignore that last message please

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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:00 pm

That subjective place feels like it’s in the body looking out but I can’t pinpoint an actual place. It feels like I relate to the world through my eyes

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Re: Liberation

Postby Bananafish » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:38 pm

Could you elaborate on what "I relate to the world through my eyes" is?
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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:10 pm

It seems that I see the world through my eyes. My eyes are the gateway to an external world which I perceive as being outside of me (my body)

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Re: Liberation

Postby Bananafish » Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:33 pm

Yes, it seems. And what's the reality about it?

What is your actual experience of "seeing the world through your eyes"?
Please point to the one that is seeing?


Also, what is "seeing through"? Does something go inside or outside
when seeing is there?
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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:01 am

The reality is that it just ‘seems’ that way but I don’t know that. I know if you took my eyes away I would still be here. So I know I’m not my eyes.

My experience is seeing things, a table a chair, sitting down, walls etc etc I can’t find a seer

I also can’t find ‘something’ that’s seeing through. It just feels like there’s something looking out but again I can’t point to it

It doesn’t feel like somethings goes inside or out. When seeing is there it feels like there’s an inside

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Re: Liberation

Postby Bananafish » Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:17 am

It just feels like there’s something looking out but again I can’t point to it
When seeing is there it feels like there’s an inside


What is that feeling? Is it thought? Image? Sensation? Or anything else?
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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:19 pm

I’m looking but I can’t find anything other than a thought

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Re: Liberation

Postby Bananafish » Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:01 pm

Please be literal about the question.

I didn't ask whether you can find it.
What is that feeling? Is it thought? Image? Sensation? Or anything else?
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Re: Liberation

Postby RobDjemil » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:29 pm

It’s a thought


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