Hello Luchana :)
I hope you are doing well. Where in the world are you? I am in Kumasi, Ghana.
Is there a REAL seer in the experience? Or it is just a feeling of a seer?
In looking no seer is found, only the feeling of a seer. This is clear whenever looking for a seer occurs.
This is an intellectual question, based on assumptions and not facts.
You mentioned that my initial question is based on assumptions, I think you are right, can you help me figure out what those assumptions are? As at present I am struggling to let go of the question.
You asked me what is that sees the thoughts, and I answered:
There is just awareness of the thoughts, awareness that they exist and that they happen.
And HOW do you know that?
I understand awareness as I understand seeing.
No seer sees the thoughts. Though the thoughts are seen.
No seer sees the laptop. Though the laptop is seen. There is seeing of the laptop.
Nonetheless, when I look for the seeing of the laptop I cannot find it. Unless I accept that it occurs with or through the thing being seen. The seeing and the seen seem to be intertwined, I cannot experience them independently of each other. Though I know there is seeing because I see something.
Hearing in my experience occurs similarly. Hearing is only found in what is heard. And what is heard is only found in hearing.
I perceive the object of my existence, though I do not perceive the perceiving. Does that mean perceiving does not exist? That there is no hearing, no feeling, no perceiving? That would seem strange.
How is this ‘awareness of the thoughts’ is perceived exactly?
I am unsure. I want to say through the thoughts themselves. In the same way that seeing occurs through what is being seen. Though I cannot directly point to perceiving or to seeing, in the same way, that I can point at my foot.
As a thought? As a sensation? As an imagination?
As none of these really. How is seeing perceived? How is hearing perceived? Not as thought, nor as sensation, but maybe through sensation.
Can you even find this awareness?
I don't find it. Though it occurs with/through/in the things I perceive. Just as hearing seems to occur in the sounds.
Can you perceive perceiving? I do not seem to be able to. Does that mean perceiving does not exist? The contrary seems to be true. Perceiving seems to clearly exist. As I perceive things!!!
Or you can only THINK of it, and IMAGINE it?
Outside of this connection between awareness and what we are aware of, I agree I can only think and imagine it. Though in that sense I can only think and imagine seeing, hearing, feeling, and so forth, as well.
One last thing. Should I avoid using the word I when writing? I ask as I feel it helps maintain the solidity of the self, though communicating without it is pretty difficult :)
All the best