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Stoma
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Hello

Postby Stoma » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:09 am

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
There is only primordial space arising as spontaneous timeless awareness precipitated into apparently finite localizations which mistake themselves as being within subject /object relationships

What are you looking for at LU?
The only thing any of us seek..................................................................................................................................................................Happiness

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
A remembering. A forgetting. A collapse. An expansion. Satchitananda: existence, consciousness, and bliss. Suchness. BEING. Total gnosis of my Devine nature and the ability to integrate this into the relative dimension

🌟🙏🌟

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I was shocked out of a sleepy atheism by a plant medicine ceremony and have binged on primary source non dual teachings and currently on the direct path

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self?
10

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Luchana
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Re: Hello

Postby Luchana » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:37 am

Hi Stoma.

(can I call you like this or you prefer another name?)

My name is Luchana and I can join you in this investigation if you wish. ( although I can only point, you have to see it for yourself). I’m not going to be your teacher, we simply will have a conversation. There are no wrong or right answers, so do not worry. It’s all ok.


Before we start some practical things:

1. How to use quotes funcion - viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660

2. Post once a day - it really helps to keep focus.

3. For the time of this investigation I will aks you to leave aside all the books and videos regarding the subject. If you have any daily practice - like meditation it’s ok to continue with it.

4. I will ask questions and will give you exercises. All you have to do is to look in your direct experience and answer from there. We look into the Direct Experience without assumptions and beliefs about what is. It is that simple.
What is Direct/Actual Experience?
Everything we can experience with the 5 senses+thought (noticing the thought, but not what content of the thought is )
So, when we say Direct Experience we mean - what is it that we see now, what is it that we hear now, what is it that we taste now, what is it that we can smell now, what is it that we can touch now? + thought on the surface, but not what thought is about.

For example - If I ask you what is the colour of your socks today you can "think" and remember what socks did you pick this morning, or you just look and see what colour are they really.



Can we agree on these?



Much love,
Luchana
Remember. You're dreaming.

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Stoma
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Re: Hello

Postby Stoma » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:40 am

Hi! Yes please call me Jonathan

Agreed with love

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Re: Hello

Postby Luchana » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:17 am

Hi Jonathan,

Agreed with love
great :-)


Before we start please answers the following questions:


Tell me, what are you really looking for. How would your life change if you find that?

What are you hoping for?

What do you want to happen?

What is incomplete right now?



Please answer each question individually as detailed as you can. Reply with honesty from your heart.


Take your time

Much love,
Luchana
Remember. You're dreaming.

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Re: Hello

Postby Luchana » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:25 am

Hi Jonathan,


I'm writing to ask you - are you still up for this?


Please drop me a line, just to know how to proceed.


Much love,

Luchana
Remember. You're dreaming.

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Stoma
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Re: Hello

Postby Stoma » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:32 am

Yes I beg your pardon... Crazy work week... I have much of your answers finished in a draft post..

,🙏🌟

J

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Luchana
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Re: Hello

Postby Luchana » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:44 am

Hi Jonathan,

thank you for writting.

Ok, waiting for the answers.


Much love,
Luchana
Remember. You're dreaming.

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Stoma
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Re: Hello

Postby Stoma » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:40 pm

1. Tell me, what are you really looking for

Peace
Spiritual fluency
The end of desire

2. How would your life change if you find that?

Total presence
Less agitation
Growth as a teacher

3. What are you hoping for?

A coming together to share

4. What do you want to happen?

What will be

5. What is incomplete right now?

Nothing

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Re: Hello

Postby Luchana » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:44 am

Hi Jonathan,
1. Tell me, what are you really looking for

Peace
Spiritual fluency
The end of desire

2. How would your life change if you find that?

Total presence
Less agitation
Growth as a teacher

3. What are you hoping for?

A coming together to share

4. What do you want to happen?

What will be

5. What is incomplete right now?

Nothing

I quoted all your message above because:


First of all this way of communication is all that we have, so you're not helping me (and not helping youself also) by answering with a word or two.

Please write in proper sentences and write a whole paragraph for each questio regarding expectations that I've asked you. Answer each question individyally and use the quote function.


Again here is how quotes function works - viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660

Please pay it attention, it's not difficult and it's much comfortable you will see.

Second:

Do you know what LU is about?

Is it clear for you that this is a guiding conversation?

That there is nothing to learn here?



Please read the Disclamer here in the forum.

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/reg ... isclaimer/

Also read what Liberation Unleashed is not

https://www.liberationunleashed.com/about/faq/

And confirm that you read both and that you are agree.


Let me clarify again that you have to write daily, you have to do lots of exercises, so this will require time and work.

Are you willing to do all of these?

If yes to all above: here are the questions again. I will always put them in Italic, so that you will know.



What are you really looking for. How would your life change if you find that?


What are you hoping for?


What do you want to happen?


What is incomplete right now?



Much love,
Luchana
Remember. You're dreaming.

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Stoma
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Re: Hello

Postby Stoma » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:46 am

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be disrespectful... Just direct.

I think you're right though I don't think I'm ready for this process.

Thanks for your support and best wishes

J

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Re: Hello

Postby Luchana » Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:39 am

Hi Jonathan,

thank you for your answer and for your honesty.

Wishing you all the best and when you feel ready for this - just know that we are here.


Much love,

Luchana
Remember. You're dreaming.


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