How do I get unabiding awakening?

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MichaelD
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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby MichaelD » Fri May 15, 2020 6:38 pm

Hi Ben,

Glad the trees were helpfull. Don'y forget this part of our conversation though:
I believe that my brain creates my ’self.’
Well, that's interesting........

How does it do that?

Is it those pesky 'I' thoughts?

Are they true?


Best wishes,

Michael

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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby ben09 » Sun May 17, 2020 6:45 am

I believe that my brain creates my ’self.’
Well, that's interesting........

How does it do that?
Is it those pesky 'I' thoughts?
Are they true?
I believe that it's been created by some brain function.


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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby MichaelD » Sun May 17, 2020 5:51 pm

Hi Ben,

So are you saying that you can see it is 'I' thoughts that create and continually confirm the Ben character, or not?

Are you mindfully noticing thought and seeing what it is doing?

Do you see that the content of thought is not real?

That it is representational?

The thought, 'water' is not water. It is not real.

What about 'Ben' thoughts?

Do you still believe them?

All thoughts are pointers.

Does the thought 'Ben' point to anything real?

Or just endless trails of more Ben thoughts?


Michael

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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby MichaelD » Thu May 21, 2020 10:07 am

Hi Ben,

Are you well?

Are you still engaged with your enquiry?

Regards,

Michael

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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby ben09 » Fri May 22, 2020 5:39 am

Hi Ben,

Are you well?

Are you still engaged with your enquiry?

Regards,

Michael
Hi, Michael.

Thank you for checking in.
I’m well and doing some of the self-inquiries along the day.

But I feel I'm not going anywhere.

Maybe the self-realization isn't for me. Or perhaps my problem is with the self-inquiry method. At least for now. For my current level.

I believe I should take a break. And see if something brings back or if I find it somewhere else.

Thank you for all your patience and effort.

If you have books (I've read both from UL already) or something else, please let me know.

Thank you,
Ben.


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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby MichaelD » Sun May 24, 2020 5:59 pm

Hi Ben,

Sorry for the delay but I didn't see that you had posted.

It is fine to take a break and there are different ways of approaching awakening - it is a question of doing whatever feels right.

The thread remains live so you can re-establish contact whenever you wish. I would be happy to try and help you, or you can try with someone else - whatever you wish.

Good luck with whatever you try!

All Best Wishes,

Michael

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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby ben09 » Tue May 26, 2020 4:20 am

Hi Ben,

Sorry for the delay but I didn't see that you had posted.

It is fine to take a break and there are different ways of approaching awakening - it is a question of doing whatever feels right.

The thread remains live so you can re-establish contact whenever you wish. I would be happy to try and help you, or you can try with someone else - whatever you wish.

Good luck with whatever you try!

All Best Wishes,

Michael
Thank you, man!
If you have some ideas, reading or exercise to do during this break, please let me know.

Thank you, Michael.


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Re: How do I get unabiding awakening?

Postby MichaelD » Wed May 27, 2020 11:06 am

Hi Ben,


Re-reading our conversation will help.

Gateless Gatecrashers which I think you can download free from the website.

Not sure if it is a guides role to recomend gurus or teachers but anything by Adyashanti is bang on the money, clear, and inspiring.

Good luck,

Michael


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