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KilluaGod
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:43 pm

It seems to be localizing between my eyes. But, at the same time, I know they're just sensations that don't have to be interpreted as me.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:41 pm

Hi. :)

I know they're just sensations that don't have to be interpreted as me.

Well, that sounds rather like rationalization; when you are feeling something,
that's what you are actually feeling, and it's not something that shouldn't be perceived,
be it an illusion.


Do you mean that you see a boundary somewhere between your eyes?


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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:10 am

It's fast. I see a boundary and then when I look at it, it goes away. So I feel like I'd be lying if I say I don't have both experiences.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:32 am

Hi. :)

I see a boundary and then when I look at it, it goes away.

Could you observe the process again, and describe it in more details?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:05 pm

Hi Banana,
I'm sitting. Looking for a boundary. I feel tension on my forehead. In about 5 secs in dissolves. I'm feeling my body now. I'm not sure I'm feeling a boundary.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:00 pm

Hi Killua. :)


Do you mean that tension is the boundary?
Is tension dividing the observer and what is observed?


Please look at the computer (smartphone) screen before you,
and please see if tension is dividing you and the computer.


Best wishes,


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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:13 pm

Morning!

Ok I understand now. No there's no tension to be found when I do that.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:51 pm

Good morning, Killua. :)


I didn’t mean to make you understand ... :)
Please don’t follow me blindly when you feel that
I imply something in my post.

(forgive me if you don’t do it ... )


Did you observe and actually see that tension isn’t
the dividing line?

Now, what is the dividing line?
Where is it?


Please answer from your direct experience
of boundary, not from your intellectual
understanding.


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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:15 am

It feels like thought is the boundary line.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:14 am

Can you see thoughts located anywhere?
Can you (literally) touch them at a
certain location?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:38 am

Hi!
No I cannot.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:47 am

Hi Killua. :)

Does it still feel like thought is the
boundary line?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:50 pm

Morning,

No, they're not the boundary

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:17 pm

Good morning, Killua. :)


Does it still feel like you are a concrete entity separate
from everything else?


Best wishes,


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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:26 pm

Hi Banana,

Yes it does.


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