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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:17 am

I suppose need is a strong word. But, if one is not abiding in the realization, then what's the point? It's like taking teachings and only remembering to apply them sometimes, having only temporary relief from suffering.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:25 am

Hi! :)


Would you be able to answer the question in just yes or no?
Is it 100% true that you need to abide in that understanding?



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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:46 am

No

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:37 am

Hi. :)


Where does that need for abiding come from?


What does "abiding" mean?


Is it that you think this "abiding" will bring you lasting relief from
suffering?



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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:39 am

Sorry, if "need" was too strong a word, it can be
want or wish.
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:22 pm

O, it's ok. I was talking about my own use of the word -- it sounded desperate and I don't think it's a helpful view.

My wish is coming from these thoughts. I believe abiding means a lasting change. I do think it will bring lasting relief.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:42 pm

Hello, KilluaGod. :)


What would that "lasting change" be?
Please tell in details.


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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:04 pm

This lasting change would be a freedom of oppressive self identification in times of anger, sadness, and other negatively afflicting emotions. A greater sense of openness. A ready responsiveness and friendliness to others and generally, life. Much less fear, and anxiety. Sustained sense of well-being in daily life. More energy siphoned back to the mind-body from the soul draining collapse that occurs with excessive self identification. Greater clarity.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:48 pm

Thank you! :)


Could your last post condensed in shorter sentences?
What is your primary goal?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:43 pm

Seeing through the illusion of subject/object duality.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:56 pm

Does it mean that seeing through the illusion
is not a means to an end?

Is it that you want it even if it leads to increased
fear and anxiety?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:59 pm

Hmm funny enough it's both the means and the end.
Totally whatever it takes. I think it's the most important realization before this body chooses to die.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:05 pm

Ok, thanks!


What is your "subject/object duality" right here and now?
How is it felt?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:18 pm

Now that I'm practicing this enquiry more often, I feel like I can see the self as an object if I look for a minute. Most of the time I'm a subject.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:42 am

Hi KilluaGod. :)


Could you tell where the boundary between you as an observer
and self as something observed? Please actually look (literally!) at them and
point to the boundary.


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