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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:41 pm

As being one with the sense doors.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:31 pm

Hi. :)


Do you mean that there is a self that is one with "sense doors"?


If that's the case, what is that "self," apart from the senses? What shape, color,
texture does "self" have? Could you observe?


What is it that's writing a reply, after all?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:33 pm

That's exactly my hang up. I have no idea who I am without the sense doors. I don't have an answer.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:34 pm

What's writing a reply? Something thinks this stuff up.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:57 pm

What makes you say that self is one with the senses?
Would it be a more appropriate description of reality?


Please don't say "I have no idea," but observe how the senses are now,
and give as precise a description as possible.


How is that "something" you are talking about perceived?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:56 am

Looking more closely, it's not one with the senses. It is it's own sense. But, it's vague because, I'm really just describing a sensation in the touch sense door.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:46 am

Looking more closely, it's not one with the senses. It is it's own sense.

Is that "something" and senses separate?


But, it's vague because, I'm really just describing a sensation in the touch sense door.

Ok, why don't we extend that to all the five senses?
Could you keep on observing all the senses in the same manner, and write what you found out
anew?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:48 am

By the way, I'm curious why you call the senses "the sense door"?
Does that terminology come from Theravada Buddhism?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:46 pm

No, it's not separate.
I think I'm making up this sense of self now.

I'm just finding the senses speak for themselves now.

Haha, yes it's Theravadan speak.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:17 pm

Hi. :)

I'm just finding the senses speak for themselves now.

I like this expression. What do you hear from them?
Please tell me more (upon your actual observation of them).
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:45 pm

It's like a silent knowing it seems.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:55 pm

:)

Now, please consult your gut feeling; have you viscerally
understood that there is no "self" that is separate and solid?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby KilluaGod » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:20 pm

Yes I do viscerally understand, although it comes and goes. I'm not able to abide in this understanding.

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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:23 pm

Hi again. :)

Let's try a Byron-esque questioning. :)


You need to abide in that understanding ー is that true?
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Re: I wish for guidance

Postby Bananafish » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:24 pm

Sorry if I didn't make sense by "Byron-esque."

I was referring to Byron Katie. :)
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