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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:02 am

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t’s just occurring in life.

No, that's just oversimplification.

I'd like you, from your firm, experiential understanding of reality,
to describe it in a more precise way, precise in terms of getting as close as
possible to describing reality as it is.
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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Scotticus » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:06 am

No. Nothing is unclear to me. I’m perfectly clear that there is no I. I am also clear that there are some aspects of life that don’t see through the illusion. You just also be clear on this, otherwise you’d not be volunteering to do what you’re doing.

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:26 am

Hi Scotticus. :)

I'm afraid I'm not here to argue whether you're clear or not ...


If you are 100% honest (with yourself, not me) and you feel nothing further is needed to be
inquired into, that's perfectly ok. The fact is that I felt something unclear
in your answers, and just wanted to make sure whether you
truly feel that anything is unclear now, by asking you to investigate your own
answers.

And as I read your post, it sounds like you're defending something.
That's another concern here.


Anyway, would you be able to tell what
"the separate self giving the feelings, thoughts, and perceptions" is again, told as
I asked you in the previous post?


Would the answer be different?
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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Scotticus » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:30 am

Well there really IS no separate self. It's the perceived illusory separate self, which, in reality, is the whole of life.

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:32 am

What is "giving the feelings, thoughts, and perceptions" and to whom is it giving them?
Could you express it without saying that no one is doing it?
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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Scotticus » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:37 am

Now, that I am not really sure of. Here's what I know. There's Us, as unbounded Consciousness. That consciousness at some point becomes embodied. After 2-3 years it starts believing that embodiment, the thoughts, the feelings, the perceptions coming to it, are part of it. But I don't know what is giving it to it? Life giving it to itself? That would have to be it I guess. Since that is all that there really is. Yes?

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:49 am

Hi. :) Seems the dialogue is going as bit out of track.

And I found out that I misread a part of your sentence in your
answers to the "final questions." I'm sorry about that.


Here's the question:

You know that there is no self when you are typing this.


Now, what is it that is typing?


Without relying on what you've learned so far (including experiential learning),
and without saying that there is no one doing it, could you tell what it is that is typing,
right here and now? Please see it from the understanding of reality, and
describe it in a way that is felt to be most precise.
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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Scotticus » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:45 am

The body. Fingers. Beyond that, the Absolute.

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Scotticus » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:51 am

Or life. Or god. Whatever you want to call it. I have made it abundantly clear that all is that. That is all there is. All. There is is the absolute.

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:14 am

Hi Scotticus. :)


I'm going to ask other guides to have a look at our thread, so that
they can ask questions if they want to.

Please wait for a while.


Warmly,

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:01 am

Hi again. :)


One of my fellow guides would like to ask a question regarding your
answers to the "final questions" I posed.

You wrote "There’s much more silence and stillness happening within."
What do you mean by "within"?


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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Scotticus » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:06 am

Ahhh. Good point. I meant within the being. But, after you've asked that, I note that there is no within or without. The outside/inside is an illusion. Bam!

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:21 am

Thanks. :)

Could I ask about what "more silence" is?
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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Scotticus » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:30 am

More awareness of the "Isness".

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Re: Following Bliss

Postby Bananafish » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:39 am

Could you tell what awareness and "Isness" are?
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