I personally feel as though I am a little stuck here, but here's my best efforts either way.
At first I felt as if I understood this, but now I'm not so sure. It was clear that the experience of the orange and the orange itself are one in the same, there's no room to seperate the two nor does them being seperate even make much sense, and yet a sense of "I am experiencing this" persists. I don't know how to describe this better.its often expressed in terms of the idea that there is something called 'perception' , and a 'separate' object that.is 'perceived' as well as one who does the perceiving. A 'perceiver'
It's not in sight.One question is 'where' then? If a me is 'there', where is that?
It's not in sound.
It's not in touch.
It's perhaps still in thought, there's a sense of control over thought still, and control is seen as something I do. I may not be able to predict the thoughts that go through my head but a sense of influence over them still provides that sense of me. That "my" influence is in directing my attention and applying effort, intentions and choice. That a "me" is needed to accomplish anything. It's me that gets me out of bed when the alarm goes off but the bed is still comfortable and a me who is choosing to come to this site and engage in this.
I have no idea how I could seperate an idea from a sense, is there a difference, what is it? Are ideas not what is applied to a sense. How we make sense of senses?Also, is it really a sense of me, as such? In the orange experiment the real orange was really sensed, whilst the idea of an orange remained as an idea.
I may be doing this, but if I am I don't know how to stop. You say it's obvious, but it doesn't feel that way, only thing that is obvious is my confusion. Self is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. I feel as though it's there and can't find it, yet the lack of finding it doesn't constitue evidence of it's absense, only evidence that I don't fully understand what I'm looking at.Its common, too, to strain to get to a 'no self' state of some sort and thereby miss the obvious.
I covered this a little all over but to summarise.Given what you've said about feeling that it's a 'me' that experiences, its worth looking to see what this 'me' actually is?
That's to say, where are it's edges?
Does it have edges or boundaries?
Not in experience but in choice, attention and effort or perhaps my "will" are its boundaries. After "my" will, what happens may not be me, but there had to be a me to set it off. Like me is a silent director.
Trying to look at this me is very difficult and I don't really feel 100% certain in anything I've said. This is all confusing territory.