Looking for some help please

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:41 am

Hi :)
How do you know that energy is, when you don't perceive it?
Heard a long time that everything is just vibrating molecules of energy - made sense - I'm sure I could Google scientific explanation.
It doesn't appear it's just manifest in everything
Would you elaborate?
Everything is energy. Everything is made up of molecules of energy. That's how distance healing it explained - just transference of energy with everything interconnected

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:44 am

Hi. :)

I guess you are talking about theories?
What about if you tell about those without relying on any theories?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:37 pm

Hi :)
I guess you are talking about theories?
What about if you tell about those without relying on any theories?
Seriously? Everything I know is what I have learned - taught stuff when I was younger which got replaced by stuff I read that made more sense and reinforced by everything I subsequently read - challenged now and again by more reading, listening, amended, adapted, replaced and added to by what intuitively feels right, what connected the dots. Take all that away i am left with nothing. Everything I know has been learned not experienced, except for moments of peace and calm that just felt earth shatteringly/life changingly different

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:43 pm

Hi. :)

Please observe what is done in your daily life and tell which of them are
theories. Is breathing a theory? Is drinking tea a theory? Is cleaning your room a theory?

And what is the relationship between what you call "energy" and the above (breathing, drinking, etc.)?
I may sound redundant, but I'm doing it deliberately, so please bear with me.

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:03 am

Hi :)

Sorry for mot getting back to you earlier, bit manic this time of year and it was a hard question;-)
Please observe what is done in your daily life and tell which of them are theories. Is breathing a theory? Is drinking tea a theory? Is cleaning your room a theory?
All the above are, I think, direct experience. Non are theories. So of course it is known or part of our 'inbuilt intelligence - ie how we breathe, see etc. So when i said before that everything I know has been learned not experienced, that was incorrect.
And what is the relationship between what you call "energy" and the above (breathing, drinking, etc.)?
Energy is the life force. Without it nothing would function. The body would be a still carcass. There would be no seeing or thinking, no breathing or drinking. Like unplugging an electrical item from the mains.
I may sound redundant, but I'm doing it deliberately, so please bear with me.
I know I'm finding it difficult but thank you for persevering

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:21 am

Hi. :) I hope you're spending a wonderful holiday.

Would you say what you call "energy" and breathing, drinking, etc. are
something separate, i.e. two different things?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:24 am

Are you regarding this dialogue as questions to be answered correctly?
What makes you say that something you said was incorrect?

Is there anything correct, including what you mentioned regarding things learned?

If so, I would say that everything you write is incorrect. :)

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:17 am

Hi yes thank you and I hope you are too :)
Would you say what you call "energy" and breathing, drinking, etc. are something separate, i.e. two different things?
Yes I see them as different things - yet of course as this is non-D I suppose that's the "wrong" answer. Though i dont see breathing, drinking as 'things', they are actions. I cant point to breathing or drinking. But i can point to a chair, table. But the chair and table are made up of vibrating molecules of energy and they're not alive, they dont breathe. So if the human body is made of energy, dead or alive, life force must be something different?

Will answer part two later :)

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:46 am

Hi :)

Part two...
Are you regarding this dialogue as questions to be answered correctly?
Yes I guess so
What makes you say that something you said was incorrect?
Process of deduction, reading what I wrote earlier, I just thought, well that can't be true/accurate
Is there anything correct, including what you mentioned regarding things learned?
Good question. I think there is true and false. Or part true...
If so, I would say that everything you write is incorrect. :)
Sorry I don't understand. Confused.com :)

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:51 am

Hi. :)

Would you answer in just yes or just no?

Are what you call "energy" and breathing, drinking, table, chair (be it
action or thing) separate?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:28 am

Hi :)

I thought I had posted in answer to this but it doesn't appear to have shown up which is why things have gone quiet I guess!
Would you answer in just yes or just no?

Are what you call "energy" and breathing, drinking, table, chair (be it action or thing) separate?
No

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:09 am

Hi. :)

Good to hear from you, Lynne.

Could you, from your daily life, describe how
"energy" and breathing, drinking, table, chair (be it
action or thing) aren't separate?

Please use washing your hands as an example.

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:45 am

Hi :)
Could you, from your daily life, describe how
"energy" and breathing, drinking, table, chair (be it
action or thing) aren't separate?

Please use washing your hands as an example.
I really don't know where to start?
Washing hands...the water from the tap becomes part of the hand mixed with the soap. So the water and soap and hand cease to be separate "things". Then hands are rinsed and dried - what is towel and what is water become indistinguishable, it's just a damp towel. And the hands are restored, clean, dry, but they have the memory of the soap foaming and the water running over them and of being wet then damp then dry again. And the water evaporates from the towel back into the atmosphere. But actually, depending on humidity and heat in the room there will always be some moisture in the towel - in a constant state of absorption and evaporation. Same with the body, we are a large % of water. So we see separate things but there is blurring where one stops and the other starts.

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Bananafish » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:44 pm

Hi. :)

What and where is what you call "energy," in all you described in your previous post?

Could you read the question again, carefully, and answer?

Could you, from your daily life, describe how
"energy" and breathing, drinking, table, chair (be it
action or thing) aren't separate?

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Re: Looking for some help please

Postby Lindylou » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:23 pm

Hi :)
Could you, from your daily life, describe how
"energy" and breathing, drinking, table, chair (be it
action or thing) aren't separate?
I'm pretty lost at the moment. I could follow instructions when asked to reply to questions by looking at direct experience, for example. I can't theorise (ie not allowed to as part if the process) so can't use 'information' I already 'know'. So I feel stuck. I don't know how or where to look for the answer to your question


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