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Re: ja

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:44 am
by domostroy
Hi Bananafish,

there's something I have noticed quite a long time ago, but keep forgetting.
Every time I pay attention to it, "my" thoughts have "my" voice, even in silence.
Maybe I should mention that I often think out loud or whisper to myself, even though I'm not quite that old :)
My kids often laugh about it but I don't care. I like it for some reason.
I don't know if the thought voice-over is always there, or if the right kind of attention somehow creates
this effect. Normally I don't notice it.
When noticed, the thoughts seem very close and personal.
If it's always like this, the thoughts then maybe always seem very close and personal.

I don't know if it's something significant or not, so I thought I'd write about it just in case. I assume it's very common, there must be a reason for expressions like "self-talk"...

All the best,

J.

Re: ja

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:19 pm
by Bananafish
Hi Jaro. :)

My honest impression of what you wrote was that it has nothing to
do with the inquiry.


Could we do some experiment on noticing?

Please notice your breath; notice it without trying to notice;
but don't try not to notice it. :)

And when it is noticed, just let the noticing be there; without
trying to sustain or to trying to notice the noticing.


Hope this conveys something.


Warm wishes,

Bananafish

Re: ja

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:30 pm
by domostroy
Hi :)

I find it impossible to do as per instructions, they are way too complicated for me.
Too much to keep in mind while doing something else.
The best I can do is to be with the breathing.

All the best,

J.

Re: ja

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:39 pm
by Bananafish
Hi Jaro. :)


The point here is to notice the breath, and also notice when
you're trying to do something with the breath.


Just being with it is another way to put it.
But careful not to "try" to be with it.

Notice that "trying."


Please give it another "try."


Warm wishes,

Bananafish

Re: ja

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:43 am
by domostroy
Hi,

I don't really have anything to report.
It's difficult, I'm not used to this level of subtlety.
At the same time, I want more of the trying without trying :)
I would like to stay with this a few more days, if it is ok.

J.

Re: ja

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:31 am
by Bananafish
Hi Jaro. :)

Anything new you want to report?

Bananafish

Re: ja

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:52 pm
by domostroy
Hi :)


Sorry, forgot about rules. I should write daily.

No, nothing at all to report.


All the best,

J.

Re: ja

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:05 pm
by domostroy
Hi,

no questions, nothing to report, really :)
I have been busy with life the past few days, so no a lot of time for other things.
Besides that, I also notice some avoidance.

All the best,

J.

Re: ja

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:29 am
by Bananafish
Hi Jaro. :)

Could you tell about that "avoidance"?

Bananafish

Re: ja

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 pm
by domostroy
Sure. It's pretty standard. Procrastination, finding other things "I have" to do and so on. General tendencies to avoid what you suggested, even though this process is really super important to me.


I hope getting back to work went smooth and was enjoyable!


J.

Re: ja

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:41 pm
by Bananafish
Thanks Jaro. :)

Ok, when there is procrastination, notice it without trying to notice nor
trying not to notice; just notice, and don't hope for the noticing to last.

Warmly,

Bananafish

Re: ja

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:08 pm
by domostroy
Hi, thank you.


I will. Otherwise, nothing to tell.


All the best,


J.

Re: ja

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:00 am
by domostroy
Hi,


nothing new here :)
Could you please answer my PM?


I hope you're fine,

J.

Re: ja

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:19 am
by domostroy
Hi :)


Nothing to report.
I will be travelling with my kids soon, it's likely I won't be able to write anything for about a week.


All the best,

J.

Re: ja

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:40 pm
by Bananafish
Hi Jaro. :)

Thanks for letting me know.
Let's experiment a bit more when you come back.

Best wishes,

Bananafish