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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:44 am

Hi Bananafish,

there's something I have noticed quite a long time ago, but keep forgetting.
Every time I pay attention to it, "my" thoughts have "my" voice, even in silence.
Maybe I should mention that I often think out loud or whisper to myself, even though I'm not quite that old :)
My kids often laugh about it but I don't care. I like it for some reason.
I don't know if the thought voice-over is always there, or if the right kind of attention somehow creates
this effect. Normally I don't notice it.
When noticed, the thoughts seem very close and personal.
If it's always like this, the thoughts then maybe always seem very close and personal.

I don't know if it's something significant or not, so I thought I'd write about it just in case. I assume it's very common, there must be a reason for expressions like "self-talk"...

All the best,

J.

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Re: ja

Postby Bananafish » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:19 pm

Hi Jaro. :)

My honest impression of what you wrote was that it has nothing to
do with the inquiry.


Could we do some experiment on noticing?

Please notice your breath; notice it without trying to notice;
but don't try not to notice it. :)

And when it is noticed, just let the noticing be there; without
trying to sustain or to trying to notice the noticing.


Hope this conveys something.


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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:30 pm

Hi :)

I find it impossible to do as per instructions, they are way too complicated for me.
Too much to keep in mind while doing something else.
The best I can do is to be with the breathing.

All the best,

J.

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Re: ja

Postby Bananafish » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:39 pm

Hi Jaro. :)


The point here is to notice the breath, and also notice when
you're trying to do something with the breath.


Just being with it is another way to put it.
But careful not to "try" to be with it.

Notice that "trying."


Please give it another "try."


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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:43 am

Hi,

I don't really have anything to report.
It's difficult, I'm not used to this level of subtlety.
At the same time, I want more of the trying without trying :)
I would like to stay with this a few more days, if it is ok.

J.

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Re: ja

Postby Bananafish » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:31 am

Hi Jaro. :)

Anything new you want to report?

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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:52 pm

Hi :)


Sorry, forgot about rules. I should write daily.

No, nothing at all to report.


All the best,

J.

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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:05 pm

Hi,

no questions, nothing to report, really :)
I have been busy with life the past few days, so no a lot of time for other things.
Besides that, I also notice some avoidance.

All the best,

J.

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Re: ja

Postby Bananafish » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:29 am

Hi Jaro. :)

Could you tell about that "avoidance"?

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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 pm

Sure. It's pretty standard. Procrastination, finding other things "I have" to do and so on. General tendencies to avoid what you suggested, even though this process is really super important to me.


I hope getting back to work went smooth and was enjoyable!


J.

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Re: ja

Postby Bananafish » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:41 pm

Thanks Jaro. :)

Ok, when there is procrastination, notice it without trying to notice nor
trying not to notice; just notice, and don't hope for the noticing to last.

Warmly,

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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:08 pm

Hi, thank you.


I will. Otherwise, nothing to tell.


All the best,


J.

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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:00 am

Hi,


nothing new here :)
Could you please answer my PM?


I hope you're fine,

J.

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Re: ja

Postby domostroy » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:19 am

Hi :)


Nothing to report.
I will be travelling with my kids soon, it's likely I won't be able to write anything for about a week.


All the best,

J.

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Re: ja

Postby Bananafish » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:40 pm

Hi Jaro. :)

Thanks for letting me know.
Let's experiment a bit more when you come back.

Best wishes,

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