Yes. But, wow, I'd never really looked at that. An idea can trigger feelings, and feelings can trigger ideas? But an idea can’t be felt. And a feeling can’t truly be ideated (or rather expressed as an idea). They’re usually so mixed up together.Idea is a concept, which is a thought fabrication.
An idea cannot be felt. Can you see this clearly?
Does this mean the absence of a thought doesn’t mean thinking is feeling? I kind of get that. Thinking can’t feel, regardless of whether there are thoughts happening or not. Is that right?And no-idea also cannot be felt. Can you see this clearly?
Yes. It’s clearly an thought.Can you see that ‘I have no idea’ is a thought and not a sensation?
I’m guessing “don’t make this thought into a sensation.” Yes, I understand that. Thank you.There might be sensations also present, but those sensation make this thought into a sensation. Can you see this?
Well, I guess the shift just happens by itself and "I" make a story about it. I don’t know how to let go of that story of I doing something.V: How do you perform the act of shifting attention away from thinking?A: I appear to have the power to shift attention away from thinking. So, maybe I can't stop thinking, but I can stop paying attention to it for a short time.
No attention just shifts and I make a story about that. Still don’t see that happening.Do you grab attention with your hands and move it from thoughts to sensations?
Well, that is the experience.V: So thoughts are presented TO YOU?A: Thoughts appear to be a response to stimulus, external or internal. I don't have any control over what thoughts are presented to me.
I keep coming back to awareness. As that seems to be the only thing that is consistent and unchanging (except when I'm asleep I guess). Still looking and not finding a YOU and not seeing the who’s looking for the me/you either, but the sense is that they’re there.Who is the YOU?
(You know, seeing through the self seems like such a weird thing to do. Why would someone even conceive of doing that? The self seems like such a reasonable thing to be.)
We’ll they appear to be presented in the head to something. So is that something simply awareness?And where is this ‘I’ that thoughts are presented TO?
I'm still looking. That's all I've got for that one sorry.Where are YOU?