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Newbie

Postby KDJ » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:57 am

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
that the identification with a separate self are just thoughts/stories/past conditioning & habits. Egoic consciousness.

What are you looking for at LU?
Help with having a direct experience of the universal aware/knowing. I don't really know what else to put to fill in the remaining character requirement, but I think you will understand from what I wrote.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
guidance towards a direct experience of the truth and abiding in that truth.I don't really know what else to put to fill in the remaining character requirement, but I think you will understand from what I wrote.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I am 50 years old. I was drawn to the truth in my early twenties and developed a good intellectual understanding from a lot of reading and almost went to India to seek a guru. Well, life took over and such, but I would still read books on and off. About 2 and half years ago my desire for the truth kicked in and I have read tons more along with meditation and self inquiry. Probably a year ago I had a little bit of an ahha moment through self investigation, realizing that I am not my mind or my body and am almost like a puppet. Yet there is no way to know this aware/knowing via the mind and that there is nothing behind the curtain. However, I would not call it a direct knowing without a doubt. I have had experiences where I seem to be outside my body/mind and be watching the action figure of myself. Often times I catch myself becoming aware from almost being in like a dream state while involved in the charting and story of self. I had one experience where my mind was racing for no reason all night long. I kept trying to step aside and just watch it. Then at one point I was total removed from my racing mind and watched it as if it was a machine separate from my true self. The word that came to me to describe it was Liberation. I then felt I understood the word. My last experience was after contemplating that there is only this aware/knowing, but there is no actual self behind it and it is just pure aware, I felt as if everything, all my sensory inputs, became totally clear. Very dense with clearness. As if a filter was lifted.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self?
11

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:26 pm

Hi,
I can guide you if you would like that
Sioned

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:36 am

Hi Sioned,

Sorry for the late reply. I thought I would of received an email notification. I would very much like your guidance.

Kerry

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:33 pm

Hi there,
I'm glad that you're still interested in this process!
The trick re notifications is to tick the little box at the bottom of your post which says "notify me when a reply is posted".

Some questions before we start:
Is now a good time for you to do this work?
Are you able to post at least once a day? (obviously there can be exceptions -I just ask that you let me know if you are unable to post for any particular reason - I will do the same myself.
and have you read the introductory blurbs on this site?


What would you like me to call you?
My name is Sioned

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:35 pm

Hi Sioned,

Now is fine. I am in California, so a bit of a time difference, but I should not have a problem posting every day. I have read the introduction and have read through the mobile app. You can call me Kerry

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:19 pm

HI Kerry,
All good! Let's begin!

Say this aloud to yourself three times:
There is no separate self at all in reality. No agent that is in charge, no manager, no watcher, no owner of life; all there is is life flowing freely as one movement.
Watch, wait, notice - what comes up? Is there fear? Is there a doubt? Resistance? Frustration? Something that wants to scream and make a turn away, something that says this is not working? Or maybe there is a feeling of wow, joy, relief?
Notice all that is going on inside and let me know what you find

x Sioned

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:38 pm

Nothing really comes up besides it still seems like there is something more to be known. That quite knowing/aware presence, without the mind, seems to have some intelligence. I have an intellectual understanding and have had a small aha moment when realizing my separate self is just a thought, but I have not had an experiential realization.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:13 am

Any dear?

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:49 pm

any dear? not following you.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:16 pm

Sorry - when I use my phone to post, gremlins creep in.

ANY FEAR?
x

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:27 pm

lol.

No fear. I just kind of laughed when I had that aha moment. I now understand myself to be this biological robot with programming that has taking place since I was born. There is no chooser. However, who/what is it that realizes there is no self? Who/what is it that watches thougths? To my understanding it's prior to the mind, so one cannot think there way to knowing.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:29 pm

Great.
Let's look at your expectations next.
What do you expect that liberation is going to be like?
What do you want from it?

xx

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:45 pm

I guess I except it to be like seeing the world with no filter of the mind and feeling the unity of everything.
What I want from it. Peace of mind, connection, and knowing Truth.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Seamist » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:39 am

Hi Kerry,
I guess I except it to be like seeing the world with no filter of the mind and feeling the unity of everything.
What I want from it. Peace of mind, connection, and knowing Truth.
ok, nothing wrong with that.
and
How do you imagine a liberated human behaves?
What should it be like?

x Sioned

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Re: Newbie

Postby KDJ » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:57 pm

i guess just waling with more peace, compassion and love. I am sure there will always be the residual of egoic habits and tendencies to arise, but one would be more aware and in the present moment.

I think It would be peaceful to the extent that you are not searching for the truth and yet not just caught up in the illusion and living in ignorance.


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