Hi Adil, Merry Christmas :)
I understand. I was about to send my reply 2 days back. But I left it on MS word bcz i wasn't 100% sure.
I came back looked at the answer and it felt not true. Then i wrote again, again after a while it felt not true again.
One of the metric I'm using to ensure i don't BS myself is the clarity with which i can say.
"Is Elon Musk sitting with me? HELL NO. The same level of clarity i'm trying to get in this effort."
Is there a thinker?
I can sit down and think about, what should i do in life? and a whole bunch of thoughts start popping up. I can sit and evaluate them
or I can sit down and think about, what should i have for dinner? and a whole bunch of ideas pop. I evaluate them and choose one
So there is a thinker
Ok. Look at breathing. You can see that breathing is happening. You can see that labelling the movement
'I am breathing' does not change the movement. Breathing is happening no matter if I label is used or not.
Same with everything else- sitting, reading, scratching an itch, walking, talking, witnessing, observing, thinking...
is there I that is doing all this? Is there a thinker...?
Do you become a breather if the breath is conscious? Do you become a walker, a sitter?
Is there an experiencer outside of experience happening?
Can you locate this thinker ?
I looked into this. There are no separate thinker or breather or sitter. There is just one that is doing all these activities.
'I am breathing' : Yes, adding the label I makes no difference for involuntary activities like breathing. And it is happening by itself, I'm not doing anything to make it happen.
'I am reading' : Now here, I have to put in the effort to focus, read and understand and also make notes.
'I am choosing between answering emails or watching a movie" :Now here, I have to look if anything really urgent is der if so i have to answer the emails if not i can relax. Now there is some form of analysis and choosing that i am making.
So am "I" not doing these consciously?
And so I'm convinced there is no thinker or eater or sitter but there is "me" that is choosing or thinking or walking or snapping my fingers.
Do you have control over thoughts?
some amount of control. I can't stop or start them but I can steer them.
Ok can you think only for just 1 min good things without any distraction from other thoughts ?
Also you say you can steer them..Let's say you steer thoughts of a friend you know..or let's say Miami..
Why not another friend but him ? why not another place but Miami ?
How these popped up ? How was the choosing made ?
Are you really the chooser or the given situations or the circumstances or the conditioning is choosing ?
good things is a relative term. I just timed myself, and i could think about Harry Potter for a whole min without any distractions.
and yes i could steer them. I wasn't thinking about HP and then i started thinking about it
why not another story! Idk
the thought just was. Idk.
in direct experience conditioning, circumstances etc does not exist. What exists is the thought and willingness to move in the direction of thought or unwillingness to move in the direction of thought.
So I still feel there is some amount control over thoughts. But it depends on my will power and effort.
Last few days i was a little down with fever & was low on strength. And I felt yes, I have no control over thoughts.
But today when I looked again after some recover, No... I can manage it with effort