listen the clock

[mudra]

Hi ,just one moment before i want write ,the sound of the clock is bigger ,just before i'm not notice that.SO my attention is moving,the thinking mind is moving like this clock ,just a few days ago i fell i'm in box,also painfull boxaround head never before i had this experience,all my story.sometimes feell my life and other time just life.

[Kiwi]

Hi mudra
I'm Mike. Welcome to LU. Are you ready to see through the truth of who you TRUELY are?
If you are, tell me a bit about yourself to this point, and what you expect to achieve here
A post a day and 100% honesty is about all you need to start!
Mike

[mudra]

HI Mike thanks a lot.i search by nature i search try different meditation and experience,in spiritual path,something go in the end.............

[Kiwi]

OK Mudra
Before we start:
Finding the truth of who you are is not a spiritual thing. There is nothing to GET. You don't ADD anything to who you already are. You need to LOSE whatever is stopping you from realising that you already have what you have been seeking.

Here's how it works. I will ask questions. You answer from YOUR OWN experience with 100% honesty. All of the beliefs that you already have (such as "I need to seek") are no good to you - they will stop you from realising the Truth. So, no beliefs! OK.? I will read your answers and ask you more questions, or ask you to tell me more about what you have written.

In your first post you wrote that "I" write, hear, notice, attend to stuff, search and have a thinking mind

Look carefully and tell me "Does this "I" really exist, or is it made up?

Mike

[mudra]

ok mike,thanks
when look clear not find any I .when i look from the box mind o emotional still not find any I BUT there is this illusion

[Kiwi]

Hi Mudra

when look clear not find any I .when i look from the box mind o emotional still not find any I

That sounds very promising, but you'll need to give me longer sentences and give me more detail. I need to know what your experience was when you looked - tell me all of the places you looked? for example: in the body? - where in the body? Tell me what you found in each of the places you looked

BUT there is this illusion

Tell me lots more about this sense of there being an illusion, such as What is the illusion about? and How do you know it is an illusion? What I certainly need you to tell me lots about what you found. Don't worry that I might not follow what you write - just write! If I get confused, that's no big deal - I'll ask you to explain it more exactly for me

Mudra, there are no "right" answers and no "wrong" answers - there are just answers. My job is to look at what you write and work out how far you've come and what questions that need to be asked next. To do that properly, I need longer answers from you. Are you OK to do that?
Mike

[mudra]

yes i'm ok to do that,try to explain and share directely with u. sure no right no wrong ,when i look from box mind ,i'm the head also fisically and mentaly,i fell close.i fell contraction in the body.and easy tired.when i'm not and i fell expansion i'm not in the body only but also in outside,at the moment no fell separation like before.illusion because separate sense,this ME change from to bee part o bee separate i say illusion because what change is not the me,but a vision o point of view

[Kiwi]

Hi Mudra
As you've started another topic and are working with Yari on the topic "separate self", I'm handing over to Yari, who will be your guide on the "separate self" topic. To have two guides in two active topics at the same time could be very confusing for you and get in the way of what you really want to achieve. So from now on, you'll work only with Yari. OK?

[mudra]

ok thank a lot for u answer

[mudra]

just i not understand why u say confusion=?