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Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby neverhide » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:33 am

I am new at this and would like some guidance please. Anyone out there?

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby vinceschubert » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:31 am

Ok neverhide, vince here.
Let's start with you telling me what brought you here ?

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby vinceschubert » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:48 am

Dan, start by telling me what is self. What you call I or Me, where is it ? what is it ?

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby neverhide » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:07 am

I think the self is all that exists, and we as humans are choosing to experience our one consciousness subjectively. Where is it? I guess it would be everywhere all the time. .......Is that what u where asking?

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby vinceschubert » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:34 am

No, i wasn't wanting to get into a metaphysical discussion.
This process is about experiencing, not theory or second hand knowledge.
When you say...
I think the self is...
What is your experience (not thinking) of this I that thinks.
Do you have a core self that you can find ?

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby neverhide » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:56 am

Sorry for the VERY late response. (connection problems) Sorry I don't know what you mean when u say core self. I guess I feel closest to myself in stillness and quietness and if I shut my ego off. But that seems to be very difficult. (I have only been there a hand full of times.)

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby vinceschubert » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:24 pm

I feel closest to myself in
Ok Dan, where is this I that feels closest to (and where is this) myself ?
Look for it. No second hand knowledge.

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby neverhide » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:57 pm

Still looking....

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby vinceschubert » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:30 pm

good on you Dan.
dont' make too big a deal out of it.
It doesn't take time to see your hand if you look.
Put your hands behind your back.
Now LOOK and see if you can see them. Notice how you mind wants to deny the looking with thoughts. But do it anyway and watch the thoughts.
Now put your hands in front of your face and Look again. Notice how thoughts still want to interfere.
Experience the SEEING as you see your hands.
Now look for the 'I' again using the physicality of seeing and dismiss thoughts as not required here.
Take only as much time as to took to see your hands.
Report what you found or didn't.

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby neverhide » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:03 am

I see myself, but oddly enough I'm younger standing alone with nothing around. I didn't see much else.

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Re: Would anyone like 2 help me?

Postby vinceschubert » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:53 am

Hi Dan, sorry about the delay - had broken internet here.
We could speculate what this represents (younger = more innocent, nothing around = without the build up of story to represent the world) But probably no mileage in it.
When you say "oddly enough.." it Does show a portal into somewhere.
Do the exercise again and See if it is different.
Remember - watch your thought processes as you do this.


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