Postby open space » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:43 pm
Hi Barry,
joining in here to support clarity and yes, agree, it can get lost in semantics. It is your seeing that confirms this truth. Let us know is there any doubt or have you seen this? I read back and posted below what you wrote in the illusion of self, seems you saw. We are here to support the seeing of this made up of story of "I" and any doubt that gets in the way of seeing that. Is it clear for you, is there an I or self at the center of you or is it an illusion? Go in again and see if there is anything in the way of seeing this today?
Call it the final sweep.
answering this clearly with a yes or no is ultimately for yourself to do a final walk thru,
enjoy,
let us know if you find anything:)
love, Coll
Explain in detail, please, what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.
Tough question . The illusion is that you have this person inside you. I think I have used the image of a little man inside my head. That this person/self is concrete-as concrete as this keyboard. That this self can be hurt -that when another person criticises an action-it hurts the illusion. How can an illusion be hurt-because the thoughts are corralled into this self. What I mean by corralled is they are stored in a kinda of mind file under "self" .
When I say mind file -i mean no more than a collection of thoughts called self but now Im thinking as I wrote that-that its complete nonsense. It just seems that way. I tell myself a lie when I say that Is it for protective purposes? Obviously lies are told for protection. I obviously get something from it? A sense of control that does not exist and anyway causes more harm than good because life/reality can be terribly random
So the self works by illusion. By taking part in it. An illusion of thought and preservation. Without it reality would be there in a purer form-I think.
I was looking at a group of students today and all I saw was heads. They were heads capable of talking to me. Have temperaments of one sort or another. Tend to act in certain patterns . But these patterns are only habits.
Im rambling here.Explain in detail, please, what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.
Tough question . The illusion is that you have this person inside you. I think I have used the image of a little man inside my head. That this person/self is concrete-as concrete as this keyboard. That this self can be hurt -that when another person criticises an action-it hurts the illusion. How can an illusion be hurt-because the thoughts are corralled into this self. What I mean by corralled is they are stored in a kinda of mind file under "self" .
When I say mind file -i mean no more than a collection of thoughts called self but now Im thinking as I wrote that-that its complete nonsense. It just seems that way. I tell myself a lie when I say that Is it for protective purposes? Obviously lies are told for protection. I obviously get something from it? A sense of control that does not exist and anyway causes more harm than good because life/reality can be terribly random
So the self works by illusion. By taking part in it. An illusion of thought and preservation. Without it reality would be there in a purer form-I think.
I was looking at a group of students today and all I saw was heads. They were heads capable of talking to me. Have temperaments of one sort or another. Tend to act in certain patterns . But these patterns are only habits.
Im rambling here.
