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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Wed May 08, 2013 1:58 pm

I can't explain what I is other than as I from thoughts.
Im not asking you to explain anything, stop thinking about this, start looking.

There are no words to adequately describe how to see, no maps of how to get there; all I can do is point to where you should look. This is not a mental exercise; all the thinking you can ever do will never get you there. I will give you a clue, because I was also a thinker. Just before I saw it, I suddenly realised that my guide was telling me to LOOK, not to think. When looking happened, it was seen.

What is looking? It is focusing on your Direct Experience. Seeing with the eyes, hearing with the ears, feeling with the skin, smelling with the nose, tasting with the tongue. Sensation, before it is judged and labeled, is direct experience.

When you keep just looking at what really happens seeing will occur, can happen any time, during any activity, nothing has to be done or changed or understood or explained first...
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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby notajack » Mon May 13, 2013 4:01 am

Haven't disappeared.
Continue to look focusing on Direct Experience. A lot of frustration, resistance and anxiety. In and out of focus.
All happening.

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby notajack » Mon May 13, 2013 3:28 pm

Looking, using senses to focus in on being present, looking for I and not finding an I. Thoughts are very scattered with no sense of subject. Feeling disoriented, scattered, not seeing I in thoughts or as a center focal point.

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Mon May 13, 2013 7:26 pm

Haven't disappeared.
Continue to look focusing on Direct Experience. A lot of frustration, resistance and anxiety. In and out of focus.
All happening.
Are frustration, resistance and anxiety not direct experience? Look, do they just happen and only then labeled as ''I am frustrated, my resistance and I am anxious''?

Is there a self, do you exist Jack?
Looking, using senses to focus in on being present, looking for I and not finding an I. Thoughts are very scattered with no sense of subject. Feeling disoriented, scattered, not seeing I in thoughts or as a center focal point.
Is there a self, do you exist Jack?
Life...... Are you separate from it?

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby notajack » Fri May 24, 2013 10:27 pm

I will give you a clue, because I was also a thinker. Just before I saw it, I suddenly realised that my guide was telling me to LOOK, not to think. When looking happened, it was seen.
You're point well taken, looking not thinking leads to seeing.

Thoughts and no thought happen.
"I"/self is only in thought.
"I" does not exist in "no thought".

Thank you.

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Fri May 24, 2013 11:14 pm

ok so whats next, going to stop thinking?
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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby notajack » Sat May 25, 2013 5:22 am

Looking, seeing, breathing, thinking all in life living.

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Sat May 25, 2013 10:20 am

Looking, seeing, breathing, thinking all in life living.
No looker, seer, breather, thinker?

Do you exist in any way shape or form, did you ever?
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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby notajack » Mon May 27, 2013 5:00 am

No looker, seer, breather, thinker?
Do you exist in any way shape or form, did you ever?
I exist in no thought as and not separate from life looking, seeing, breathing, thinking, living and having and not having thoughts of shape and form.

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Mon May 27, 2013 11:11 am

I exist in no thought as and not separate from life looking, seeing, breathing, thinking, living and having and not having thoughts of shape and form.
So you are life?
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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby notajack » Wed May 29, 2013 3:10 pm

So you are life?
I am life.

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Thu May 30, 2013 4:38 pm

:-) Great, can you control life? Heal the world?

Can there be I and life? Is anything not life?

We can go back and forth like this forrever, what do you expect will be the result of this? Looking in immediate direct experience of body, senses, thoughts, emotions and awareness, are you in control of any of these? Would you be having ''a lot of frustration, resistance and anxiety.'' if you could control it?

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:58 pm

Are you awareness?
Life...... Are you separate from it?

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby notajack » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:27 am

In "no thought", no "thing" to experience and describe a nothingness called "Life/Existence". Realization/awareness that "I/self " exist in thought and do not control breathing, heartbeating, before the thought of body at birth or after death of body. Awareness of "self in thought" and other than "self" in no thought. Awareness, a word from thought that describes (that, a state of, a sense of, realization of) no thing, nothingness, emptiness in no thought.
:-) Great, can you control life? Heal the world?
Based on my direct experience described above no I to control and no life or world to control or heal in "no thought".
Are you awareness?
I am awareness, nothingness, emptiness in no thought.

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Re: Jack welcomes guidance

Postby Life » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:51 am

Are you awareness?
I am awareness, nothingness, emptiness in no thought.
In no thought? What is no thought?

How can you be this?

Look, is there really something beyond to identify?

Thought or no thought do you exist?

Really take the time to find what is true right now, dont give an answer how you think it is or how it should be but how it is seen to be...!
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