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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:31 pm

There are favorable circumstances that will help to lead to awakening:
A story here is that the only circumstance that matters is a burning desire to awaken.
i don't have an opinion about the other story, the Buddhist one. Or any others for that matter.
If i am faced with it there will be responding.
I think it is matter of belief. It works if we believe in it.
Belief is just part of the story. To believe in a story is foolhardy. It may or may not be true.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:26 pm

A story here is that the only circumstance that matters is a burning desire to awaken
Can I conclude that this story can be useful for some people and unseful for some others?
Belief is just part of the story. To believe in a story is foolhardy. It may or may not be true
I think I see...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:28 pm

i don't have an opinion about the other story, the Buddhist one. Or any others for that matter.
If i am faced with it there will be responding.

Thank you Vince.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:53 pm

A story here is that the only circumstance that matters is a burning desire to awaken
Can I conclude that this story can be useful for some people and unseful for some others?

Looking back at my question, i think it has no meaning. Stories can help to see I think, but may be a story is necessary
for an asleep person if he/she wants to dream about awakening.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:38 pm

a story is necessary
for an asleep person if he/she wants to dream about awakening.
Absolutely. Most people don't really want to wake up, they just want a better dream.
Have you woken up yet ?

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:23 am

Absolutely. Most people don't really want to wake up, they just want a better dream.
Have you woken up yet ?
It is quite hard to answer you question...
There is may be more acceptance, more flexibility in the mind, less seeking energy, anxiety...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:31 am

If i am faced with it there will be responding.
Although I am not fluent in english, I think I got the meaning of your sentence.
It is quite something to think about the fact that it can have responding without identification... I am still processing with...
Thinking to the process in the nature can help i think to get a flavor of it...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:01 pm

Thinking to the process in the nature can help i think to get a flavor of it...
Ah yes, beautiful, Nature is a perfect display of reality not needing a self to control anything, and yet everything that needs to happen, does so, effortlessly.
the fact that it can have responding without identification
Yes, does the plant that turns to face the light, have a self to direct it ? It is just responding with innate preferences.
Before story distorts reality, that is what you do too.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:47 pm

does the plant that turns to face the light, have a self to direct it ? It is just responding with innate preferences.
Beautiful...
Before story distorts reality, that is what you do too.
I am processing with that i think...
that is what you do too
I am processing with your comment...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:18 pm

Hello Vince
Today was a bit different than the others because of something calm inside. No joy, no sadness, no strong reactions in the mind while in chalenging times at work. A better awareness about how the stories starts and stops and sometimes restarts... The external world seems to have less impact at moment. Something is processing in a kind way inside the brain and the body.

Gratitude from Paris

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:32 pm

aah, beautiful.
Something is processing in a kind way inside the brain and the body.
That may well be Neuronal pathways doing a re-configuring dance.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:06 pm

That may well be Neuronal pathways doing a re-configuring dance
It is so beautifully said...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:12 pm

Today was a day were old stuffs were processing. Some rest in sleep. Exchange from the heart with a close friend who was not well too, and relief at for both of us at the end.
i am triying to see the whole day as the motion of the flower to the sun.
the i is still running the show but it is not so dramatic or ecstatic, or it could be after all why not.
Seeing life as a motion. good flow in the head/headache, grounded/space out, at peace/overwhelmed,alone/with people...
The nightmare starts when i says i am this or that, and may be stops when i look at the process as a whole thing with his inherent conditions...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:31 am

The nightmare starts when i says i am this or that
When do you see that it has started ?
Do you see it when it's over, or when it is happening or even before it starts ?
What alerts you that it's happening/happened ?

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:44 am

When do you see that it has started ?
When i come aware at the story at work


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