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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:21 pm

The present still remains vivid as an identification with the I according to what's going on emotionely
Does the story get seen after the event when high emotion carries you away ?
i am wondering if to be well "settled" from an energetic point of view is not a pre-requisit to SEE?
i wouldn't say a pre-requisite but it would certainly be easier.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:11 pm

Does the story get seen after the event when high emotion carries you away ?
If you mean, the story seen by the I after the event, i would say, less and less
If an invisible man look back at himself he won't see himself but the footprints...Kind of... no better exemple at the moment to explain the feeling...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:13 pm

i wouldn't say a pre-requisite but it would certainly be easier.
Thank you vince

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:41 pm

Today the mind has been filled with waves of depression and bliss, sometimes i don't even know to whom it is happening. Thinking back to this, it is quite funny.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:38 pm

the mind has been filled with waves of depression and bliss,
Ahh, this sounds like a relaxation into what IS.
The mind resting in the cradle of actuality.
i don't even know to whom it is happening
It isn't happening TO anyone. It is just happening and being experienced by the organism labeled Nikam.
There is (temporary ?) relief from the minds' obsession to understand. Soak in it. See the beauty and freedom of it.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:55 pm

It is just happening and being experienced by the organism labeled Nikam.
There is (temporary ?) relief from the minds' obsession to understand. Soak in it. See the beauty and freedom of it.
I don't know if it is temporary or lasting... The obvious feeling is a better flow in the body, the head and that makes the connexion with the everyday life much easier... It is like being in a bubble that would be open, in way... :)

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:55 am

The obvious feeling is a better flow in the body, the head and that makes the connection with the everyday life much easier...
Yes, without the mind induced reality distortion, life-ing gets 'smooth'.
That's not to say that old habits don't kick in from time to time, but if they are immediately seen as the result of story and the reaction dropped, it is over quickly and is felt to be 'hollow', no force behind it.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:32 am

Yes, without the mind induced reality distortion, life-ing gets 'smooth'.
That's not to say that old habits don't kick in from time to time, but if they are immediately seen as the result of story and the reaction dropped, it is over quickly and is felt to be 'hollow', no force behind it.
Thank you Vince. You have exactly summed up what's going on those 2 last days and that i could not put in words :)
The night and wake up was weird, no real flow. Instead of as usual, starting to be a little annoyed with life and the day, looking came later and flow came back.
The mind used to be filled with thousand of questions... not easy to go back to the questions list at the moment...He is having rest i think :)...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:22 pm

Rest is good. Lots of healing and alignment happens in rest.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:35 pm

Rest is good. Lots of healing and alignment happens in rest
Gratitude vince

Since 2 days it is more the awareness of thoughts, events that are arising and perishing. Old thoughts come back like "you have to do this or that in order to"... whatever it is...
Insights are appearing sometimes about the fact that there is nothing that can't be accomplished with a free mind. It's like a stream running on an empty highway. The beauty can be seen-felt. The mind can come back and ask what to do with that. Anxiety can arise but there is also the "choice" to pay attention to it or not...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:55 am

Old thoughts come back like "you have to do this or that in order to"... whatever it is...
Are you seeing them as thoughts, before, during or after they occur ?
Anxiety can arise but there is also the "choice" to pay attention to it or not...
Excellent, just be sure that when you choose not to pay attention, that it is just an ignoring of what is there and not a denial of it's existence.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:24 pm

Are you seeing them as thoughts, before, during or after they occur ?
I am seeing those thoughts during they occur... and after as a contraction for exemple in the stomac. But sometimes it not so obvious, there is a contraction in the stomach while everything is fine. It seems a "subbtle mind" is at work and is giving an information about something hidden, about to come, or still there, but not at the moment in the awareness.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:29 pm

just be sure that when you choose not to pay attention, that it is just an ignoring of what is there and not a denial of it's existence.
It's quite something... Thank you vince, I will look closely...

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby nikam » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:52 pm

Hello Vince

Today there was a kind of awereness that things, including the "spiritual quest" have been done for a big part in order to improve self esteem, dreaming that it would be the key in oder to find happiness, while the stream of the mind was like a permanent drepressed one.
The "music" in the background of the mind it not a sad one now, and the flavor of the moment is much like looking at the world with new eyes. The mind is still asking what's going one now? What I am going to to do? but the space is much more seen as an infinite field of possibilities than a meaning less empty space.

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Re: In here nikam...

Postby vinceschubert » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:40 pm

This sounds like a much more pleasant experiencing.
So are there any remnants of a self experiencing this or is it the organism experiencing or is there just experiencing ?


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