It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

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Garsius Tyla
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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:17 pm

Tak suschestvuesh li ty?

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Laksana
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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Laksana » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:01 am

Это к кому вопрос - к мысли "я" или ко всей системе в целом?

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:33 am

K tebe.

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:14 pm

Smotri. Jesli jest mysli - smotri na nejo. A potom skvoz.

Ty suchestvuesh? Vot vchiom vopros edinstvenyj vazhnyj zdes. Nespeshy otvechat. Smotri.

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Laksana » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:04 pm

Когда я говорю, что я пугливая, или я несчастная - получается это я, которого нет, приписывает себе чувства, которые просто появляются?

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:25 pm

Laksana, eto nevozmozhno poniat. Mozhno tolko uvidet sam fakt, kak fakt.
"я пугливая" - chto eto, kak javlenie?
"я несчастная" - a eto chto takoje?
Kogda eti mysli pojavlialis, byl li u tebia kakoj nibud vybor - pojavitsa im ili net?
Jest li vobsche mesto dlia etovo "ja"? Gde eto mesto?

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:40 pm

Vse moi voprosi - eto tolko napravlenie dlia nabliudenija. Ne dlia uma.

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Laksana » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:28 am

"я пугливая" - это мысль, которая пришла после эмоции. Не было выбора, никто не решал, появиться ли им или нет.
Нигде, нету его.

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:45 am

Jest li vobsche v mire gde to mesto dlia individualnostei? Individualnych derevjev? Individualnych liudei? Vetra? Oglianis vnimatelno vokrug - est li gde nibud mesto dlia "ja"?

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:47 am

"Нигде, нету его." - tak chevo my ischem zdes? Mozhno li naiti to, chevo netu?
Ty suchestvuesh vobsche?

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Laksana » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:42 am

Постоянно возникают мысли, которые как бы говорят "я, я, я - это, я - то...."

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:24 pm

Mysli voznikayut, da. I "ja" jest v sostave mnogich myslej. No ukazivaet li etot "ja" na chto nibud realnoje, ili eto prosto slovo, etiketka? Smotri escho raz: "ja" jest tolko v skazke, kotoruju raskazivaet mysl. Skazku pro Deda Moroza pomnish? Skazka byla i ostalas, tolko kogda to v detstve ty perestala ej verit, da? Eschez li Ded Moroz posle tovo, kak ty uznala o niom pravdu? Chto propalo togda? Ne tozhe samoje li s etim "ja"? Vera v nevo est, skazki o niom jest, a nevo radimovo - nikak net.

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Laksana » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:50 am

Garsius, у меня никакой реакции на эти слова нет. Ну нету "я" и нету. Сейчас даже мысли перестали "якать". Ты говоришь - не думай об этом, смотри. Пытаюсь. Чем больше происходит смотрение, тем большая тупость одолевает.

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:03 pm

Chorosho. Ty zhe nemozhesh byt tem, chto vidish, ne tak li?

"большая тупость одолевает" - eto sostajanije. Videnie etovo proischodit, zamechaetsa. Eto ne ty. Izuchi etu "tupost" so storony. Ty nikak nevlijajesh na to chtoby eta tupost voznikla ili zakonchilas, da? A chto togda vlijajet na eti sostojanija, chto nich rulit, a?

Smotri.

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Re: It's time to face the illusion. I'm ready when you are.

Postby Garsius Tyla » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:15 pm

Escho odno. A kakoj ty zhdesh reakcii na etu realizaciju? Zdes my zanimaemsa realizaciej prostovo fakta - tebia netu. Eto prosto znanie kotoroje ne v predelach uma - "tebia net", dazhe eta mysl neadekvatna etomu znaniju. Tupost ot tovo, chto tvojo vnimanie uzhe znaet eto, nuzno tolko priniatije samovo fakta. Jesli ja by sprosil - mozhesh li ty poiskat edinoroga u sebia za spinoj, ty by iskala? To zhe samoje i s etim "ja" - kak zhe mozhno evo iskat, jesli jasno, chto evo -net?
Reakcii, vspleski, fejerverki mozhet byt, a mozhet i neproizaiti. Eto prochod cherez vorota, stream entry. Ty stoish na beregu reki i smotrish na techenie reki. Jesli prygnut v reku, tebia, smotriaschej neostanetsa - ty stonovishsia rekoj, techeniem. Mir takoj zhe, zhizn takaja zhe, tolko tebia v nej net. I ty eto znaesh.


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