Seeing There is No Real self

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:01 am

Yes. You've been traveling & too busy, so I didn't want to overwhelm you.

What is there besides thoughts? Direct Experience. Remember this?

Direct or Actual Experience is

Seeing
Hearing
Feeling (Sensation, not emotion. Emotion is Sensation plus made-up thoughts & labels)
Tasting
Smelling
Thoughts Arising (but not their content)


I realize your not complaining of anxiety. but if anything can focus you in the present moment. this can.

Here is an anxiety exercise that focuses a person in the present, and in a part of the brain that cannot do anxiety. Basically, go through each sense and say (or think) "I see/ hear/ feel/ taste/ touch ______________." A minute or two of each and usually anxiety is gone.

I see the couch.
I see the keyboard.
I see the glass. Etc.

I hear the train.
I hear the keys clacking.
I hear my breath. Etc.

I feel the couch under my butt.
I feel my fingers on the keys.
I feel the cold air. Etc.

I taste a metallic taste in my mouth.
I taste the coffee.
I taste the food. Etc.

I smell the humidity in the air.
I smell my husband's shampoo.
I smell the soap. Etc.

As far as I can tell, the only time this doesn't work is when someone won't do it.

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~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Wanderer618 » Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:01 am

Thank you for giving me space and not overwhelming me. I appreciate your thoughtfulness there. I still really do want to see through the self.

Thanks for that exercise on direct experience. That’s a good practice especially when thoughts seem to overwhelm.


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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:11 am

Happy to help.

Do the practice then answer this question:

how does it FEEL to see this way?


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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Wanderer618 » Wed Sep 03, 2025 5:36 am

It feels accurate. Without all the nonsense of the mind judging and chattering on. Is there any way out of the madness of the mind? I feel like I’m stuck in a loophole of mind. I can’t seem to see beyond this miserable suffering person that doesn’t actually exist.


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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Sep 03, 2025 10:30 am

Okay. Well. "accurate" is not a feeling. Accurate is a thought, a label.

Where do you feel this in your body?

Write what your body experiences, such as temperature. weight. etc.

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Wanderer618 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:48 am

I feel that my body is here and I feel inhabited rather than caught in endless thoughts in my head. I notice that my body has weight and tune into a bodily awareness that wasn't present before I was doing the exercise. I actually feel like I am in this body when I do the exercise.

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:52 am

I actually feel like I am in this body when I do the exercise.
Where, exactly, is this feel8ng located?

Describe it with body Sensations (not thoughts or labels).

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Wanderer618 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:54 am

It feels like it is centered in my chest. Like a weight there.

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:55 am

Right & what do you know about feeling of "weight" or heaviness?

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Wanderer618 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:57 am

Lies are a heavy and constricted feeling in the body.

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:57 am

Refer to my post from June 2nd.
~ Stacy

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:58 am

Therefore, this story of a "self" is a __________?
~ Stacy

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 4:01 am

~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Wanderer618 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 4:03 am

Therefore, this story of a "self" is a __________?
Lie

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Re: Seeing There is No Real self

Postby Wanderer618 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 4:04 am

It's just not clicking. I don't know why I'm so incapable of looking and seeing the truth of no self.


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