How do I see past fear and doubt?

[Soren]

There's nothing to wait for.

There's nothing missing.

The mind-body has a momentum I do not control. I cannot snap my fingers and dissipate years of conditioning.

[Anastacia42]

Okay.

Can you say 100% that there's nob separate:"self?"

If so, how does it FEEL to see this?

[Soren]

If I say "there is no self", the lie response occurs (gut contraction).
If I say "there is a self", the truth response occurs (gut expansion/lightness).

[Anastacia42]

Good.



Will you please answer the question above?

Plus how does it FEEL to see this?

Loving,

[Soren]

No, I cannot say 100% that there's no separate self.

There is a gut contraction.

[Anastacia42]

Ifv that's the case,, what does this mean?

There's nothing to wait for.

There's nothing missing.

Say "there's no separate self. "

Now how does it feel?

Loving,

[Soren]

There's nothing to wait for.

Gut contraction. (lie response)

There's nothing missing.

Gut lightness/expansion. (truth response)

There's no separate self.

Gut contraction. (lie response)

[Anastacia42]

Interesting. Are you sure some thought that argued with the first one isn't what the contraction responded to? Don't go crazy with that, but it happens.

Here's a quote that reminded me of your thread:

"What tries to get rid of a thought is just another thought."
—Adyashanti

The question here is what did you mean by these statements? It sounds as if you saw there is no self (again).

If that's the case,, what does this mean?
There's nothing to wait for.

There's nothing missing.

Loving,

[Soren]

Interesting. Are you sure some thought that argued with the first one isn't what the contraction responded to? Don't go crazy with that, but it happens.

What you say feels right. Thoughts to do with time and doership are sticky.

The question here is what did you mean by these statements? It sounds as if you saw there is no self (again).

I don't know; I struggle to answer. Thoughts of doubt and inauthenticity arise.

What are you waiting for?

This is question was interpreted provocatively.

[Anastacia42]

Yes, thoughts, thoughts & me thoughts. But a "self? " Just a thought.

What are you waiting for?
This is question was interpreted provocatively.

What does that mean? Please just answer the question.


Thank you,

[Soren]

More thoughts.

Something to do with affirming uncomfortable conditioned beliefs:

"I'm wasting my time"
"I can't do it right"

Saying these aloud result in physical truth responses.

[Anastacia42]

That's interesting, since "I" is a lie. But then I don't know what those thoughts mean to you.

I don't understand some of the truth/lie you say you're getting. But 2 weeks ago, you wrote this on March 28th"

I can say 100% there is no self.
It feels slightly expansive in the solar plexus, slightly lighter in the heart.

Are you practicing ButtChair? Have I given you that?

This is the only pointer Ilona gave me when I was guided here. i practiced this for about 3 months. I call it:

ButtChair

Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.

Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?


It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.

Then write what is true.

Loving,

[Soren]

There is only sensation, and thoughts to do with the sensation.

[Anastacia42]

Yes, good. We're looking for a felt shift, a point when you know, beyond all doubt, that there's no separate "self."

Keep practicing ButtChair & continue to write here for a few days. I did only this for 3 months.

Loving,

[Soren]

(I don't know what to type that isn't a thought)

Noticing that, since the chairs are different over the course of a day, the sensation is different; and this stimulates thoughts.

Noticing that, the longer one exercise is repeated (or familiar), the more thoughts come.