So, did you stop first and the thought came or the thought came and you stopped?
i think i probably stopped milliseconds before the thought
I’m going to ask you again, do cause and effect exist outside of DE? Is there time there? What is time?
Cause and effect occur in thought content. Without thoughts - no story - no timeline! Time is a concept in thoughts.
From DE , there is noticing of a thought . The content cannot be found in terms of location. Thought cannot be located
What or who is doing the noticing? (honest description of DE)
DE is images/ colours, smells, sensations, taste, thoughts. To describe who or what is noticing thoughts from DE, well - there is no colour, no smell, no sensation, no taste of an apparent noticer , so the noticer must be just a thought, but a thought cannot notice (or do anything). So I am a bit confuser about who or what is noticing a thought, other than saying it is a thought about a thought - which i dont know if that makes any sense
What is life?
A total mystery is my answer so far after observing
So, is there an entity called “life”, or “God” or “Consciousness” that dictates what is happening? LOOK! Don’t answer with “There is no entity” or “no one there” – describe your experience.
no entity. I am in Italy right now, and I am in a city I have never been to before - i did not know the way to the shop, there was an observation that intuition was driving the walking and was keeping this "body" safe from cars, etc, there were no thoughts needed to stay safe or find the safe way! In terms of what is life, i observed a lot of people and animals and plants just doing their stuff, i do not see a grand master orchestrating anything.
So, basically causes and effects unrolling in thought. Now, what is happening without thought content?
Its all happening without thought content! Including decisions!
Something is in control of itself . That would suggest a choice between one thing or another. What is in control outside of thought and of what?
ok, I see. there is nothing in control, no entity doer. this is absolutely bizarre... i cannot even say "something" is choosing on its own between one thing or another, i just have to say, choices happen (and there is no chooser
I'm also struggling very very very much in my relationship when I make a mistake. The whole blame, shame thing
If there is no free will, who is making decisions and who is responsible?
have you ever tried that during an argument ? haha . it does not work. but i know what you are saying. Language creates a doer, and thus a person who makes mistakes, and thus a person to feel shameful about it.
thank you for your wonderful questions. I found these the hardest questions yet - but that is probably because thought is in and out when I am answering them.
I have just watched this video by Luchana and Lubo (bedtime viewing instead of reading the book)
Jump from the edge of...
and when they asked "what is reality without the content of thought, what is here?"
That one really allowed thoughts to subside for a few few seconds and laughing and seeing without thoughts. And: "without (the meaning of) thoughts what is the experience of the body?
" . it was lovely and interesting . And that then allowed me to see - by contrast - why I am not happy (and also the Weekend / Sunday issue I have) - Because now I am back to my normal state - my normal state is "yeh, there is this moment, but i cannot be happy here, I need to worry, there is nothing here in this moment for me" I realise that this is thought content , but the thoughts are very sneaky and I don't realise they are there. So the questions made me realise those thoughts were there. "what is reality without the content of thought, what is here?" and ""without (the meaning of) thoughts what is the experience of the body?" But these thoughts still run, and there are sensations in the face when these thoughts are believed. The same sensations everytime.