La Serenissima! How wonderful! I visited Venice twice, and have seen Florence, Rome, Ostia Antica, and Pisa. All are wonderful, each in its own way. Talk about visible history!I live in Venice, Italy.
Yes! The thought MUST arise or there is no "feeling" that there is a point of view. (And without the thought, there is no "feeling" of NOT having a point of view, so you won't notice the absence of having a point of view until the thought "point of view" appears again! In other words, don't expect fireworks.) And, yes, seeing (or any sense) is immersive, vivid, and surprising when there is no thought, interpretation, labeling--when you notice that you don't know what This is, and become curious (not to understand it, but to experience it more directly).The thought/concept of having a point of view should arise. The idea of being a separate entity looking at the world from its own perspective. When I was walking around this evening (after doing the exercise) i was noticing how immersive can be to experience visual appearances when thought is not involved.
This is a good answer for now.I'd say it [awareness] is the only thing I find in direct experience.
It seems that this exercise is useful to you. You said you were going to repeat it, so let's go with that.This is the stream of thoughts I recorded earlier, while doing the exercise.
Excellent observations. Thoughts are so subtle, so implicit, and there are so many layers. They are also so automatic.There is no seer until thoughts arise reclaiming the ownership on seeing. Not implicitly. It's all implicit, automatic.
Doership is a filter, as is point of view/seer. There are many others that together make up our "sense of self". Our work is to see what they are made of and how they operate.Mental activity itself seems to impose this "doership filter" on perception.
It's valuable to orient to the vivid, immersive sense perceptions. When the "feeling" (actually, thought) of "I" drops away, that is what remains. Does that bring up any feelings? I have a natural meditation routine first thing in the morning to really immerse/dissolve in Direct Experience. That is the true teacher. I'm only a guide. The point of inquiry is only to see the filters and how they produce the illusion--so that you can live in, as, and from Direct Experience.
Throughout our dialogue, feel free to send me your impressions, thoughts, and insights as they arise. There's no limit on how much or how often you can post.