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by s-p-a-c-e
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: A jump to truth.
Replies: 58
Views: 1624

Re: A jump to truth.

A good point. Something ( or not thing!) we could call it reality, for example, is recieving perceptions thoughts sensations. I heard a new word yesterday which I liked.."bodyworld" which suggests how the body makes possible the world which it is itself a part of; a sort of self sustaining loop. Bu...
by s-p-a-c-e
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:58 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 75
Views: 2051

Re: Pay Attention

Is there trust that the hand moves as and when required? Is there trust that the eye blinks, and the body breathes, as and when required? Yes, these things are taken for granted. It was surprising and reassuring to notice how I trusted breathing to happen, and then a bit disconcerting. Ok, that's f...
by s-p-a-c-e
Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:19 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands
Replies: 16
Views: 225

Re: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands

I feel that there is no self. That all is one. That I am just a representation in the physical body of something bigger. This sounds to me like an intuition of being, let's just say, a natural human being reading this with no name, nor in need of one. But my mind feels very attached to the person"c...
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:49 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands
Replies: 16
Views: 225

Re: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands

Yes for sure!

:)

Ok, share with me about "I understand that there is no self and I don't understand that there is no self."

Thank you,
John
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: HELP! I can't even see the gate to the stream. I AM REALLY LOST
Replies: 11
Views: 272

Re: Don't waste your time. You should probably bin this.

Hey Adam, That was meant to be all I was going to write tonight. Just to let you know I am taking this seriously. But then this pile of nonsense came out. Definity stuck, can't seem to find out how or with what. I have been reading through the Liberation Unleashed Look book and the quotes from the a...
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:26 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: A jump to truth.
Replies: 58
Views: 1624

Re: A jump to truth.

There is a story which owns/claims everything to maintain it´s seeming reality. The investigation is knocking bricks out of the story although the false wall still stands. The habit maintains itself ignoring /forgetting inconvienent information. That which filters all events for it´s own view, will...
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 75
Views: 2051

Re: Pay Attention

Hi John, I asked the mood/self to move the left hand, and it couldn’t do it. The hand could stay still or move, and that wasn’t to do with the mood/self. It was an intention (I think) that moved or didn’t move the hand. Keith xx Is there trust that the hand moves as and when required? Is there trus...
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:55 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 75
Views: 2051

Re: Pay Attention

Hi John,
How can you observe this
and this Be you
at the same time?
It can’t. So, none of the contents of consciousness can be me...

Keith, ask this mood/self directly to use its autonomy to lift up the left hand.

See what happens.
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: A jump to truth.
Replies: 58
Views: 1624

Re: A jump to truth.

When I followed your instructions the hand didn't move.

Yep!

So, the story of autonomy we've been living with for all these years, what do we do?

Carry on regardless, pretending it's true?
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands
Replies: 16
Views: 225

Re: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands

it is a story - everything is a story.
But on the other hand I am also living right now in this life and tying these words with a physical body/form.

If everything is a story, then isn't that too a story?
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:10 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: A jump to truth.
Replies: 58
Views: 1624

Re: A jump to truth.

Yes there is the sense of autonomy. I don´t know if there is true autonomy outside the conditioned processing that seems to happen. The story that has been built up and seems to govern, seems to decide and accept the consequences. If the autonomy is story , there is the possibility of being trapped...
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands
Replies: 16
Views: 225

Re: Breaking through the illussion on seperation | Corona from the Netherlands

I am in Sweden now and the idea is to be back in the Netherlands in August. What about you? I wasn't very clear in my question. :) I'm in the UK by the way. How i understand and see myself is that I have a body, thoughts etc. but that in the essence I am not that. I am one with something bigger, wi...
by s-p-a-c-e
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Pay Attention
Replies: 75
Views: 2051

Re: Pay Attention

Now, does it seem to you that your mood/self can do things?
Does it seem to have autonomy?
It does sort of seem to.

Indeed, the mood/self does sort of seem to have autonomy.
That you have established by observing it.

How can you observe this
and this Be you
at the same time?
by s-p-a-c-e
Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: A jump to truth.
Replies: 58
Views: 1624

Re: A jump to truth.

...because in the story of "Nigel" there is autonomy, for sure, no?

So we check, is this autonomy, or the story of autonomy?
by s-p-a-c-e
Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:46 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: A jump to truth.
Replies: 58
Views: 1624

Re: A jump to truth.

The voice in the head as far as I can tell is a mixture of ideas,emotions, conditioning, memories creating a filter preventing the direct experience of life here. Ok, so we have a sensation behind the eyes with zero autonomy. We have a voice in the head with zero autonomy. Anywhere else where auton...

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