My reply, for context:
"Thoughts were never really gathered. I hear you on all parts, and think everything you're saying is pretty much valid. I agree that LU probably isn't for me, and I always kinda knew that.

I might need more time to get back to you with any other potential response because ...

Private message from Jeff: "I've had a sense for a while that there's some work you ought to do other than what's happening at LU. You get incremental micro insights but overall they get lost in the sauce and don't... accumulate... effectively...? In written dialog with so much space in between and ...

Can your ears think?
If you were standing in a group of several people making no noise at all and your thoughts seemed loud to you in some internally audible way, if you were repeating a mantra to yourself mentally, silently to anyone outside your head, or even if you had tinnitus, would any of the ...

OLD STUFF, SCROLL DOWN FOR NEW
Hearing
-What was heard?-What sense did it occur in?
-Which was the content/object, and which was the context/sense?
-Is it clear that in this case, what was heard, and hearing itself, occurred independently of any
other senses

-Microwave sound
-hearing
-micro wave ...

Would believing your socks are green or blue or yellow change the fact that they are red, if they are?
No, if they were fundamentally red in some absolute way, believing would not change them. It might change your perception, but i'm speaking intellectually here.



If there is a self, tell me ...

Thank you again,
you'd mentioned wanted to figure out how to get to less is more, one thought is maybe you notice trends rather than individual instances of thought identification, that'll punch harder and in fewer words / questions? also drills that you already know or can come up with can ...

I have no idea what “On the self-doubting lens” means.
I think I meant that it was mostly my habitual self doubt. in that light, probably wasn’t needed, it was much closer to Yes than anything else.


Lets try to find where this uncertainly is prevalent and repeats and dig into it. Tell me about ...

Many good questions! Too many in fact 😂 I'll get back to you as soon as I can but probably not by tonight
Jack

In hindsight from the call, I think a lot of what I was reacting to so negatively in these writing exchanges was some vague idea of who I thought you were and a vague idea of what you thought of me, without actually knowing anything about what you are like In real life.

Like you do go on animated ...

Hellooo,

Please review your straight up "Y/N" answers and see if there’s anything really different about any of them or the other examples that makes “Probably” relevant here, either with or without your question about language.
On the self-doubting lens, yes, no need for probably. it was a Yes ...

Also interested in what happens when you hold "mu".
Bunch of different things. The way I’ve been doing it is --in breath “what is mu” and outbreath “muuuuu” ---and just kinda ignoring the dog/buddha nature / “emptiness” parts of the koan since I haven’t been able to figure that out.

Holding onto ...

Hey Jeff, I'll update if things change, but I'm probably going to have to respond to this tomorrow, I won't have a minute to really write anything after right now until tomorrow pretty much, hope that's ok. I'll stay with mu or something in the meantime lol

LU

Hi Jeff, thanks for the response.

First, thanks for the starry night vacation story. I got a good feeling from the idea that everything in my experience has what is essentially my whole universe to play with. It’s not like i’m a box that has to stuff shit down and keep it locked tight. I got a ...

lease let me know what you get from this explanation.
Ok. my take from this was that whatever comes up for me, is just essentially 1. what’s there and 2 just scenery, just like a cat purring. I don’t need to push parts of me down or bring them especially into the foreground. Really, just don’t ...

Hi Jeff, let's call soon. I'll text you on whatsapp tomorrow, gotta get it set up and it's 1 am my time now.

OK, what do you think I meant by “don’t suppress anything?”
I think you meant 2 things: don't hide anything that I think is important just because I think you want it different, but ALSO ...