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by Albyn
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

Ok. Let's go for observing then.
I honestly think that clearing things up would help but whatever you say.
by Albyn
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

This is a subtle way to say that there is a subject (self) that is looking at the object Not necessarily. In my view it feels like there's a self but I know there is no need for it to be there. Looking can happen without the self but there has to be something that does the looking. It won't happen ...
by Albyn
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:20 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

I don't know if we're misunderstanding each other but I thought it's liberation from the self. That's what I've experienced years ago. Even at that time, there was something I would call consciousness. Maybe we have different definitions of those words... I can try. If it's a belief I don't mind get...
by Albyn
Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:53 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

Conscious of looking? Yes. There is someone or something aware of the process of looking. There is no need for consciousness to be there for looking itself but it is there. Same as looking, same as the object. To me consciousness is a fact. The self could be a belief. Sure. But not the awareness. Wh...
by Albyn
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

What is consciousness? Awareness of the body or the mind. It's not a concrete entity. How could it be? It's a process, capability, program of the brain. When I don't think about it, it remains the same thing. If I don't give it a name nothing changes. It's still there. For practical reason we call i...
by Albyn
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

I almost never think about consciousness. I do live my life knowing it. I use conciousness. I am aware of the body, thoughts, sensations and actions. Most of the time I act with patterns and habits I've created over my life. They're automatic. So I am sometimes aware, conscious of them but rarely do...
by Albyn
Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:18 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

It's not about thinking. You just know. Or rather, I just know. Either I am conscious or I am not. And therefore either I know about consciousness or I don't. Person who's never experienced it will not understand what it is. Computers (these days) would not understand what it is. In the future, they...
by Albyn
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

There's no need to know about consciousness in order to be conscious. It's not prerequisite.
Once a person is conscious, he knows about consciousness though. There's no other way.
The answer would be no if I understand correctly.
by Albyn
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

Sort of. You don't need to label it or name it. No need to explain it, to know how it works but to know what consciousness is you need to be conscious. Or rather, if you are conscious you know about consciousness.
by Albyn
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:10 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

Not sure I understand. How could I not know about memory or awareness. If these things are not present I'm not sure if there's a self. That would be like animals. No idea if animals have self. Anyway, I really don't know how you mean it. Can you please explain it? But at present the answer would sti...
by Albyn
Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:28 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

I don't really know how to answer that it's obvious that the self can't be shown. It would be the same as showing someone a memory I have. Or a thought. Or a visual picture I see. Or showing someone awareness Just can't be done. It's not something physical as the brain. It's part of the brain. Like ...
by Albyn
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

It's a program in the brain. Same as program for sensing the body or for tasting. Obviously I can't show it to others. I can show it to myself by stopping the brain from doing something I don't want to. Where is it? It's in the brain. Throughout big part of the brain but not all. You could say it's ...
by Albyn
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:12 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

Well. Ok.
But what should I do then?
I can try setting it aside but everytime I read any of the questions from the guides I find an answer with self.
Everytime I look, I find the self.
by Albyn
Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Re: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

Hi Kento. Thanks for offering your help. Understood. The word limit didn't allow me to explain properly so let's do it now. I've read Brutal Beginnings more than 4 years ago and when discussing it with a friend I became "liberated". The state lasted for the evening and the next day. After the second...
by Albyn
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again
Replies: 30
Views: 608

Went through the gate years ago. Didn't stick. Want to find way again

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this? The idea, the thought that there is a self that is in control of the body and the mind. That there is someone steering the wheel. The idea became entrenched in every aspect of our lifes it affects t...

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