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by BobS
Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

Hi Warissem, is there Bob in direct experience No, Bob is a creation of thought. Are there eyes looking or is there looking only? You said my previous answer was thought, but I don't see that. To me it is a direct sense perception. If I break it down step by step: I can FEEL my eyes. That is direct ...
by BobS
Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:50 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

Are there eyes looking or is there looking only? Yes, there are eyes looking. I can FEEL my eyes. When I close them I can feel the eyelids against them blocking the light. So I know they are the ones looking. What is a body ? Does a body have a size, a weight, limitations, outside of thought ? A bod...
by BobS
Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:16 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

From your point of view Bob is described as you did it. Now, read your answer with a tool called "Looking at direct experience". Direct experience is what is seen, what is heard, what is smelt, what is tasted, and bodily sensations. Give me a new description of Bob on the direct experience basis. OK...
by BobS
Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

1) Write down all what you know about I and about Bob and come back with a resume. 2) Write down all what you know about "being aware" or "consciousness" Bob is a spiritual seeker who is male, curious, persistent, strong-minded, and sometimes helpful to others. He is a mind and a body which is typi...
by BobS
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:03 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

Is consciousness known through the five senses ? Is consciousness a thought ? Is consciousness a sensation ? Or is consciousness known by itself? Does it need a you to know itself? Are you aware right now ? Does being aware need an I ? Does it need Bob ? Is consciousness known through the five sense...
by BobS
Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:12 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

You know "what is looking cannot look at itself" : OK. What is IT? It is this sense of I, this center of feeling. I cannot define it further than that. What is aware right now, reading and understanding these words ? You wil say :me. Then I ask again : what are you? what is this "I" you put before ...
by BobS
Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

Do you mean that you are a soul inside a body? I don't know what a soul is. It's not a word I use. But maybe that's correct. Now, there are two ways : 1) you have looked at yourself and you find nothing but you don’t believe the seeing. Or 2) you are confusing yourself with awareness. When I say "I...
by BobS
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:59 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

Warissem, Thanks for being patient with me. Would you speak about yourself, what are you ? Feel free to elaborate. I am a mind inside a body. Is there another strategy we can follow? Because I know you will say that 'mind' and 'body' are concepts, and I must LOOK deeper, and I will try and try and t...
by BobS
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

Are you seeing the word "I" on the screen? Yes. What is seeing the screen and the word "I"? LOOK. Don't go to thoughts. Look at direct experience. What is seeing the word I is ...... I. I can't see other than that. If I remove the word 'I', or pretend that I don't have language, then it is still tha...
by BobS
Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

You recognize that "I" is a concept, that's good. No, I don't think I recognize that "I" is a concept. I wrote that YOU would say that. I WISH I knew that. I read over and over what you say about the finger pointing to the moon, and the word "chair" describing a chair. But for me the "I" is not lik...
by BobS
Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:50 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

First, who or what is knowing that “I” is located in the center of the head? Two, who or what is sensing its presence? These are difficult questions. I sit and ask for a long time. I sink into them. I try to dismiss all thoughts. And what comes up for both questions is 'I'. I think to myself "Waris...
by BobS
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

When you say : I am seeing, what is this I? I want to know, describe it for me. DOn't tell me what you think about "I", instead give me what you see, hear, smell, taste, touch. It is in the center of the head. I don't see, hear, smell, taste, or touch it. I feel it. I could call it a bundle of ener...
by BobS
Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

I asked in the first instance :"Once again, do you feel the “I” or is there a feeling of beingness, aliveness ?" You answer is : "It is the "I". A few lines later, in the same post, you said :"What you call a feeling of beingness or aliveness is what I call "me"." You are free to call it "me", "I" ...
by BobS
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

I'm very familiar with this exercise, and have done it many times. To me, there is no comparison between the fruit example and the "you". The fruit obviously does not exist when I open my eyes, but the "I" is there before, during, and after the exercise. I would agree that I don't "See" the 'I', bu...
by BobS
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:55 am
Forum: THE GATE
Topic: Seeking no self
Replies: 61
Views: 1404

Re: Seeking no self

2) You have seen that “I” does not exist through the five senses. I have? I never said that. The five senses are one (or actually 5) ways to see if something exists, but not the only one. In a previous post, you said : “So the fact that the 'I' cannot be perceived by the 5 senses is not evidence to...

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